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USm1 captain ETO + hawley Liner


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Hello Guys,

here is a new discovery, it's coming from USA, I made a trade with a friend in Belgium

It's a nice fixed bail helmet, number 58A, with a captain rank and follow me on the rear

The helmet is a hawley in nice condition.

 

There is a label into it :

W M Shepperd Us Navy

20 crosvenor square london england

 

This address was the HQ for Einsenhower and for the Navy, the man was certainly an administrative officer

There is one William Shepperd in the navy who was Lt in 1942, and Lt Commander in 1945 so I suppose it's him? If someone have more informations...

Thanks

Bertrand

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ParanormalTrooper

It appears that the liner itself is painted for an Ensign, but the steel pot appears to be an Army captain.

 

Maybe a put together set?

 

Either way, nice lid!

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Thanks for your comments Ben

I think the liner has a band with the name of the soldier on the front, it's not an ensign insignia for me

 

Bertrand

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It appears that the liner itself is painted for an Ensign, but the steel pot appears to be an Army captain.

 

Maybe a put together set?

 

Either way, nice lid!

 

The captain rank in the army is a lieutenant in the navy. Tag says lieutenant.

 

Ray

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stealthytyler

The only W.M. Shepperd that appears in the register is William M Shepperd born 1904. In 1944, he is listed as LT. There should be enough info here to pull his records. Is the helmet named anywhere? Or just on that card?

 

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Thanks for your help

There is only the tag in the liner, no name or info on the shell unfortunatly

If I see correctly, he was a Lt in 1942, and a LCDR in 1945

So it's possible to have a captain army rank in the front of the shell for a navy officer?

Bertrand

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The captain rank in the army is a lieutenant in the navy. Tag says lieutenant.

 

Ray

However, this would not explain the follow-me bar on the back of the helmet. Not saying it's impossible because it has happened but, it would be odd. Tag also says U.S. Navy so, that would at least be pretty clear as to who owned the liner and it's use. I am leaning toward put together maybe.

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stealthytyler

However, this would not explain the follow-me bar on the back of the helmet. Not saying it's impossible because it did happen but, it would be odd. Tag also says U.S. Navy so, that would at least be pretty clear as to who owned the liner and it's use. I am leaning toward put together maybe.

There has actually been a few lids that have popped up that are USN with a follow me stripe on the back. Let me dig and see if I can find them.

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Thanks for your help and the link, it's a really interesting discussion!

 

For me the liner is original on the shell : in perfect condition, with some traces made by years on the liner and the shell. If someone add it after, I dont see why he let the label into the liner. A navy helmet is not salable as an infantry in my opinion, so the best think to do for an unscrupulous seller is to cut it.

 

Obviously we cant be sure but it seems good to me

 

Bertrand

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Thanks for your help and the link, it's a really interesting discussion!

 

For me the liner is original on the shell : in perfect condition, with some traces made by years on the liner and the shell. If someone add it after, I dont see why he let the label into the liner. A navy helmet is not salable as an infantry in my opinion, so the best think to do for an unscrupulous seller is to cut it.

 

Obviously we cant be sure but it seems good to me

 

Bertrand

 

And Bertrand, that is all that matters, that it seems good to you. I was just throwing out a thought and I have been known to be wrong, just ask my wife. :)

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stealthytyler

Heres my Navy Helmet with a follow me stripe. Picked up last month at the MAX Show.

Ronnie

 

Hey Ronnie, have you found out anything else on your lid? Do you have a full name to go with it?

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