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Bullion CBI patches (World Report, Flying Nurse and Red Cross)

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#1 ocsfollowme

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:37 AM

Let's have a cordial discussion backed up with facts of other insignia. Please include photos etc...

 

 

This auction just ended and did not make reserve. https://www.ebay.com...=p2047675.l2557

 

It was brought up in this thread but the discussion about them should be talked about in this one. I've seen Red Cross ones like this pop up on eBay from time to time and cannot remember if they were of the same construction. 

 

Good and cordial dialogue please. Include supporting evidence rather than just IMO. 

 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:38 AM

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:38 AM

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:38 AM

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:43 AM

Here is a fully bullion one.

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:44 AM

I found this one on pinterest. 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:46 AM

Bunch of variations of normal CBI. Notice the top three left patches with only a single white border. 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 09:52 AM

The OP Flying Nurse was previously talked about on this forum http://www.usmilitar...i/#entry1604611



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:01 AM

From http://www.usmilitar...da-mt-peterson/

 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:02 AM

From http://www.cbi-theat...i_red_cross.jpg

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 03:38 PM

Another one that I found on the internet. 

 

https://www.liveauct...-arms-june-8-9/

 

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 03:40 PM

Bullion camp show USO patch 

 

http://www.usmilitar...oe#entry2099887

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 03:46 PM

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 03:48 PM

This one is similar in construction of the OP patches for the bottom portion (front and reverse)

 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 03:49 PM

Anyone? Feel free to chime in and post. 



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 06:59 PM

Here are three I own that glow on the back like the New York Skyline at dark.Scotty

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:46 PM

These look like mirror images of the patches that started the post. So not to put words into your mouth you are saying they are bad! Just unbelieveable that the auction went so far with no one alerting to possible fake except Airborne-Hunter and yet bidding went to over $2000 on ebay and to be honest I did not think or even consider them to be fake.



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 05:26 AM

Mort until I had them in hand and

could see if they glowed I or anyone else can not say for sure.All I am saying is the similarity is frightening. Scotty



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 05:29 AM

Why would just the backs glow? 



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 09:55 AM

I have a couple (World Report) and Red Cross and neither one glows. Same style as illustrated in the beginning. 



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 11:35 AM

Hi Dave,

 

             Would you respond to question posed by Airborne-Hunter that World Report existed AFTER the war and the second question regarding the examples you have that do not glow and similar style that does glow;what are we to make of this apparent contradiction. Do you agree with A-H assessment on construction as to how he thought they were fake without blacklight?



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Posted 06 November 2017 - 12:31 PM

My guess is that the patches are real. The front does not glow. If the reverse glows the patches may have been in contact with a material that reflects black light.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 04:48 AM

The magazine "US News" started in the 1934. In 1945, the owner added "and World Report" to the name, making the it US News and World Report of today. Even though World Report was not added to the name until 1945, the magazine had foreign correspondents in the war, maybe they wore this patch. I cannot find a wartime copy of US News online but maybe there was a World Report section.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 04:49 AM

Why are they more faded on the back than the side exposed to sunlight? This seems common with questionable patches.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 11:46 AM

Hi Dave,

 

             Would you respond to question posed by Airborne-Hunter that World Report existed AFTER the war and the second question regarding the examples you have that do not glow and similar style that does glow;what are we to make of this apparent contradiction. Do you agree with A-H assessment on construction as to how he thought they were fake without blacklight?

https://www.usnews.c...es/about-usnews

 

First thing I need to say is this is only my opinion, and I could be wrong. I don't bat 1.000 in anything, and have had some notable mess ups here on USMF. Next, the patches that began this thread are not for military units, and I don't collect them nor have a modicum of interest in them. This is not a knock on those who do; I collect MRS patches, guaranteed to put most collectors to sleep, or not want to collect anything again. 

 

World News was in fact started in 1946, and merged w/ "US News" in 1948 to become US News and World Report. Does it really matter if the patch was made in 1946 for an organization active in 1946? It was done in the style of those military and non-military patches made 1943-45. Does it matter if a German made patch for a US Army unit, made by the same manufacturer, was made in 1946 or 1945? How about a Japanese made patch for a US Army unit, same time frame, same circumstances?

 

I can also add that the patches that began this thread, as well as those posted by Bill Scott, are NOT made in the style of Paki made bullion repro patches c. 1970, Merrill's Marauders, MTF, Kachin and Jingpaw Rangers; all of these are now close to 50 years old and might fool you if you never saw them prior, or your memory has faded, or you are not an ASMIC member, as we have pubbed articles on them.

 

Since I don't speculate, unk to me why the backs of some of the patches glow and others for the same units made the same way, same materials, do not.

 

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