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Started by Retired Army Noncom , Oct 10 2017 07:01 PM

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#1 Retired Army Noncom

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:01 PM

Looks like a wool tunic and I lightened it a lot to see the shape of crossed sabers with rimless buttons and stand collar, Regt or troop is not possible nor any cuff braid.....am I correct to assume this is an officer? It came with another photo, Christmas 1911.

 

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Edited by Retired Army Noncom, 10 October 2017 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2017 - 07:55 PM

No shoulder rank either.................



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 08:31 PM

Could be a Private or a 2LT. Prior to Dec. 1912 2LTs has no rank insignia. The disks weren’t an issued thing till 1910 or 11 (initially worn as a pair of each). Check out Bill Emerson’s book, “Encyclopedia of United States Army Insignia and Uniforms.”

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:39 AM

Rimless buttons as well.  I say 2 LT.  Steve McG



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:39 AM

Young 2nd Lt is my guess also.


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#6 Gil Sanow

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 05:29 AM

Given the height of the collar, I think a 2LT also.  Am debating whether this is am M1902 type stand / fall collar or  straight standing M1911.  EMs started wearing discs in 1909.

 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 05:42 AM

Given the height of the collar, I think a 2LT also.  Am debating whether this is am M1902 type stand / fall collar or  straight standing M1911.  EMs started wearing discs in 1909.

 

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I agree about the collar, it looks rather 'chunky' at the bottom and left collar bottom corner looks as if there is a seperation between the fall front to the back stand. As I said though, another photo accompanying this photo is dated Christmas 1911 and it looks like a get together for the regimental officers and NCOs.

 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:36 AM

That's what I was seeing too.

 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 05:05 PM

I guess I'm leaning towards an enlisted man. I don't see an officer bar on his lapel plus the cut of his uniform looks like the type issued to enlisted, not something worn by an officer. 

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 10:39 AM

Under a maglite...he's a trooper, 1st Cav C Troop.



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Posted 15 October 2017 - 06:35 AM

RAN, good eyes! Kim


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