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A right facing Southeast Asia Command patch

Started by Patchcollector , Oct 09 2017 02:02 PM

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#1 Patchcollector

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:02 PM

Hi all,
I was just browsing eBay and found this.These right facing variations are so rarely seen I thought I would post images of it here.
I'm so unfamiliar with these that I'm not sure if it is authentic or a copy.Can anyone confirm if it is a real one?

 

 

Thanks

 

 


Auction link here:

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/...BwAAOSwgIxZ0-86

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 05:11 PM

50s Japanese made???

 

Anyway here's another fully embroidered SEAC right facing patch on a uniform, though it's Blue, rather than Black.

 

http://www.usmilitar...atch-on-uiform/



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Posted 09 October 2017 - 06:05 PM

Thanks for the link Patches.I searched for awhile and couldn't find another black and grey example like the OP piece.But it looks familiar;I think I've seen another some years back.

Anyway,I did find another right facing Phoenix at the Imperial War Museum site.I'll post that example here.

 

 

 

Here is the description from the site:

 

 


Physical description
Badge: A purple Phoenix with red eye and tongue, its wings outspread, rising from red flames on a silver wire circular background within a blue border. White cloth backing. Looks right.

 

History note
Badge worn by HQ staff of Admiral Lord Louis Mountbatten, Supreme Allied Commander South East Asia (SACSEA). The badge signified Allied might rising from the ashes of the Japanese occupied territories of Burma, Malaya, China, the East Indies and South Pacific. SACSEA was set up at the Quadrant Conference in August 1943. The new command was to control all operations and command all forces in the South-East Asia theatre. Admiral Lord Louis Mountbatten was appointed Supreme Commander on 25 August 1943, the US Lieutenant-General J. W. Stilwell (Commnder CBI (China Burma India Command) was made his deputy. Initially the headquarters were based in Delhi but were moved to Kandy in Ceylon in April 1944 and eventually relocated to Singapore in 1946.

 

Apparently this emblem was worn mostly by British and Colonial troops,along with some worn by US personnel.

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 03:57 PM

The OP patch sold for US $267.26



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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:44 PM

If that patch was unquestionable 268 dollar would be the biggest bargain in the last two years.Do not ask me why but after 40 years I have a hard time believing it's real I hope I am wrong.Scotty



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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:48 PM

I agree with Scotty does not look period construction and looks Asian made especially when looking at the back.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:02 AM

The reverse threads on the bird and flames look very translucent/synthetic.  



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:06 AM

I agree with Scotty does not look period construction and looks Asian made especially when looking at the back.

 

 

Since the Command was in Asia,and some were theatre made,that does'nt concern me too much.It does have a postwar made look to it though.



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:35 PM

Has the look of 20years or more post war Asian construction



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:37 AM



 

 

Since the Command was in Asia,and some were theatre made,that does'nt concern me too much.It does have a postwar made look to it though.

 

The badge that started this thread was made to fool collectors, no different than overpriced FAKE Chindits insignia being sold as Originals. This is an expensive education in collecting for this buyer.

 

British SACSEA badges were Locally made in India.

 

For reference here is a example of a Locally made SACSEA badge with better detail I've recently sold

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