ccyooper Posted September 19, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 19, 2017 Along Skips lines I thought I would post this for discussion. 152701729787 wwii case dagger knife. The price is high, am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted September 19, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted September 19, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 19, 2017 First saw this one a couple of days ago. First time I've ever heard of a V42 with a crossed cannons ordinance stamp. Also the thumb print looks like it's cast into the blade and not cut like usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byf41 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #4 Posted September 19, 2017 Wouldn't want that thing In my collection ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted September 19, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Costa Posted September 19, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2017 ?????????????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted September 19, 2017 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2017 It sure looks like a repro to me, the thumb print is wrong. Ordinance stamp? Since I don't own a V-42, I would look to Ron Doyler, he knows V-42s. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les George Posted September 19, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 19, 2017 a lot not right about that knife, the blade is not hollow ground for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMariner Posted September 19, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 19, 2017 Someone is paying hefty sum for it not being original last i recalled it was in the high 700s! Glad this one was posted i was very curious about it myself! Curious what an original WW2 period example would be worth ? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted September 19, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 19, 2017 Agree with Les and Sactroop The blade looks stamped.The thumb print isnt cut/ground as originals were. The guard looks to thick as well. Reminds me of a Chinese copy.The pin in the pommel wouldn't be hard to add by a skilled person and the ord stamps can be bought too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinb Posted September 20, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 20, 2017 I feel bad for whoever buys that piece of junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted September 20, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 20, 2017 Link to Frank t's site showing a few copies http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/v42.htm I have one of the Continental Precision made reproductions.they are well made.The pommels on the COPPI brand are threaded and not pinned. The early Chen/Chinese copies had etched company markings which would easily be scrubbed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les George Posted September 20, 2017 Share #16 Posted September 20, 2017 Reminds me of a Chinese copy.The pin in the pommel wouldn't be hard to add by a skilled person and the ord stamps can be bought too. That was my first thought as well, I have a Chinese Army dagger that reminds me of this blade a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted September 20, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 20, 2017 From Franks site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share #18 Posted September 20, 2017 Imho, In addition to the thumb print and a few other obvious problems that a little research would have enlightened bidders to, another give away is the cheap or pitted steel of the blade. V42 blades were hand crafted and built by what I believe were the best craftsman at Case. They were highly skilled and I have never seen a blade that was not impeccably finished with unblemished steel. They would never let a knife in this condition leave the factory with a blade that had pits and blemishes like this knife has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Walters Posted September 20, 2017 Share #19 Posted September 20, 2017 This is not an original WW2 Case V42. The differences have already been noted, but also include the wrong edge on the pommel. Should be thinner and slightly turned down toward the blade. Guard too thick, should be stainless steel and the bend is wrong. Metal is grey, should be gun blue. Thumb print stamped, not cut. Blade grind not hollow ground. This worthless knife is either a post war repro or an individual's effort toward reproducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groserm Posted September 20, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 20, 2017 Who was the schmuck that bought that knife.....it was me. Thanks to all that posted to this thread. Especially to you CCYOOPPER.I was able to cancel the purchase. I still have a lot to learn on some of these knives. Thanks again to all. I do love this forum and it's members. Have a fine Navy day! Rick (Schmuck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbridge Posted September 20, 2017 Share #21 Posted September 20, 2017 The forum at its best...Thanks gentleman for being inquisitive enough to expose a bogus knife and save a lesser knowledgeable collector from a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V42 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #22 Posted September 20, 2017 It is a complete repo. Nothing to it is right and is just a copy. If someone is going to pay big bucks, they best be sure it is right. I did see it on eBay but everyone knows about eBay. These have been around for a while. They're nice if you want an example and can't afford a 'real' one. Feel sorry for the guy who ends up buying this. He is in for a surprise when he finds out it's not a real V42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted September 20, 2017 Share #23 Posted September 20, 2017 Who was the schmuck that bought that knife.....it was me. Thanks to all that posted to this thread. Especially to you CCYOOPPER.I was able to cancel the purchase. I still have a lot to learn on some of these knives. Thanks again to all. I do love this forum and it's members. Have a fine Navy day! Rick (Schmuck) Glad to hear you were able to get out from under this purchase. Don't beat yourself up too much, we've all had the experience of learning the hard way. If I was convinced the knife was real, I'd have been jumping on the chance to get one for about 30 cents on the dollar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groserm Posted September 22, 2017 Share #24 Posted September 22, 2017 Thanks Sactroop. I definetly will do my research next time. The knife looked good to me but I have never seen one up close. Didn't even think there were Chinese fakes. I have a lot to learn yet but do have the Cole books and others. Thanks Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted September 25, 2017 Share #25 Posted September 25, 2017 This just popped up on ebay again, with a "Buy Now" price of $995. Ebay item # 152716253271. Ad states the other person backed out, non-payment. Glad no one got burned.. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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