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WWI egas from Grenadier USMC tunic - auction item

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#1 drbill

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 02:51 PM

Just received today USMC WWI tunic 2/5 with egas. Want to make sure they are right? opinions please- only have 3 day inspection period!

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 02:56 PM

Unfortunately those are fake. They are discussed a bit in this topic, starting in post #145 http://www.usmilitar...eit-egas/page-6



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 03:25 PM

Refer to Briuer's disc B284 page 120, he classifies them as a reproduction.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:02 PM

You guys are right on target. Sent pics to Dr Fred Briuer and he confirmed plate 284 p 120.  We heard from the proverbial "horse's mouth". Not that I doubted you folks , just wanted to be sure before I return or get a price adjustment.  thanks, Bill



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 11:50 AM

I am a little hesitant to classify these as "fake".  This is what I know.  They do exist in excess quantity, and are always seen in mint condition, however their manufacture is spot on.  They are clean strikes with great detail.  They conform to WW1 disc manufacture (except lack the square base to post, which not all original discs have) and colorization.  The backs usually show decent looking age. 

 

I think these can be found with numbers and letters attached.

 

I think there could be a case that these were made by a US manufacturer in early to late 1919, anticipating the return of Marines from France and that the Corps would retain the discs; anticipating demand essentially.  As we know, discs were abolished upon the Marines' return.  It stems to make sense that some amount of "supply" existed that was otherwise unused/unsold.    I surmise that these could possibly be unused stock that have had stuff added to them over the years.  It is conjecture, but so is just saying that these are "fake".

 

If it is unused stock, they should not be on a 5th Marines uniform and would serve a their own special place in an EGA collection.  I personally have these in "not sure" bin.  I also have this same version in gold (for dress uniform), which I also think lends credence to them being anticipated for a longer period of time.  We do have photographic proof that gold discs were made for and were worn by Marines upon their return up until about 1920.   

 

Mike



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:37 AM

Thanks for addendum


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