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#1 phantomfixer

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 05:47 AM

My uncle came across a tombstone in his small town in Delaware

Named to Abraham Shorrt

the inscription stated he served at Valley Forge and during the War of Independance

Dates are not legible, but apparently he survived the war

 

Anyway to verify the name to a unit

No rank as seen on the tombstone

 

I did a quick search on the Valley Forge web site but no joy...I know there are guys here that are very skilled and have/know the resources to use, to aid in researching names..

 

Understood that Rev War records are sparse.. A small group of us here in DE are still trying to research the Battle of Cooches Bridge and the 20 or so soldiers that died delaying the Brits and the Hessians during the march towards Washington's forces farther North

Thanks much for any help

John



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:48 AM

I found an Abraham Short listed in the Rev war scrolls from Delaware, 2d regiment, Newcastle County...could this be him?  It doesn't have two R's in Short like you posted but might be the same guy?



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:48 AM

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 06:57 AM

In the latter part of August 1777, Howe landed near the Head 
of Elk, near Elkton and marched over Gray's Hill. Kniphausen 
and Agnew landed on Bohoemia Manor, and marched through 
Aikentown, (Glasgow) and on the 3rd of September, Johnson 
says, "the British line extended from Glasgow, then called Aiken- 
town, to a point some distance northwest of the Baptist Church on 
Iron Hill, and on this day the battle of Cooch's Bridge and Iron 
Hill was fought,"— supposed to be the first fighting under the 
"Stars and Stripes."* "The American loss was about 40 killed 
The British loss was somewhat less. "* * Captain John Crawford 
grandfather of Miss Rebecca Crawford, marched from Middletown 
here; but owing to the positions of the two armies, he was unable 
to join the American forces, and therefore did not participate in 
the battle, but quartered his Company in the old meeting house 
here, where they remained all night, resting upon their arms.

 

 

Abraham Short, the maternal grandfather of Miss Rebecca 

Crawford, was with Washington at Valley Forge during the win- 
ter of 1777-8. He is buried near the northeast corner of this 
building. He died when Miss Rebecca was 19 years old, and 
she can relate many interesting incidents, connected with the 
Revolutionary War, which she received from him, by word of 
mouth. When he was advised to apply for a pension, he became 
very indignant, and brought his papers all out and threw them 
into the fire, saying, he "didn't serve his Country for money." 
Such a patriot in these days would be a, "rara avis." 

 



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 07:55 AM

Guys that is great information...thanks  much for response...

 

Most likely the same Short, as my uncle was uncertain if the name contained one or two R's

 

If I recall the line extended from Glasgow, near the Grange along a route on now rt 896 and ended near the site of what is now the Blue Hen Stadium or there about..

your search stated 40 Americans killed during the battle...the local museum list 20-22 colonials that day...and the burial location is unknown, but said to be on the grounds of the now Dyatt Mills/Pencader Area Museum...the intersection of rt 72 and Old Baltimore Pike, the SW corner

 

I grew up between Iron Hill and Red Hill along Old Baltimore Pike,, the old farm and house was used by British and Hessians, camped below Iron Hill...Old maps show the farm and house, along with the encampment...kinda neat history of a little known battle



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

Zsmith..is there a link? amazing the info

 

 This weekend, ont he site of the Cooch battle, and American officer is returning a flag to a British delegate, the flag is a modern naval flag, left in Newark years ago during a ceremony, stored by a police chief...and to mark the anniversary of the battle and the peace between the countries...the flag will be returned to the Brits...more ceremonial than historic...but the point is bringing awareness to the fallen Americans on DE soil ...



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 08:20 AM

History of Pencader Presbyterian Church (1899)

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 08:46 AM

See if you can find the proper county history online and check it for Shor®t's name.  You can find a link through USGenWeb.

 

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 09:13 AM

will do...Thanks G

Thanks Z



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 09:29 AM

Uncle went back to Pencader cemetary,

Short 1755-1829

"A soldier with General Washington at Valley Forge in the War for Independence"

 

thanks to all for your help 



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:27 AM

 

He died when Miss Rebecca was 19 years old

 

 

 

Short 1755-1829

 

 

I found a Rebecca Crawford buried in New Castle County, Delaware that was born in 1810. Looks like everything matches up.



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Posted 06 September 2017 - 04:49 PM

Thanks much Z...you guys nailed it in less than 30 minutes...it amazes me..

uncle states there are several more Rev war vets buried there but the stones are too far gone to read...



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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:22 AM

http://www.newarkpos...7e646f6f16.html
 
sorry the flag ceremony was yesterday...

It was Sept. 3, 1777, when American and British troops met at Cooch’s Bridge during Delaware’s only Revolutionary War battle.

On Wednesday, almost 240 years to the day, Americans and Brits met at the site once again — but for a much different purpose.

In a formal military ceremony, former Newark Police Chief Bill Brierley returned to the British people a flag that had been left in his possession four decades ago. The Union Jack had once flown over the HMS Sheffield, a British ship that sank during the Falklands War.

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