Edited by dzandkw, 30 October 2008 - 01:29 PM.
Uncles picture What ribbons does he have
Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:29 PM
Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:44 PM
In order they are Presidential Unit Citation with star, Navy Good Conduct Medal with at least 2 stars, American Defense with star, American Campaign, Asia Pacific Campaign with 2 or 4 stars, I cant tell. Then there is the WWII victory ribbon, the ww2 occupation ribbon, and the National defense ribbon.
Can any of you guys tell me what ribbons my uncle has in this picture. His 214 says china service and national defense obviously he has more than that.
There is no China service on his ribbon rack, but I can tell by the photo that it is a custom made sewn ribbon rack, so with that said, he probably just didn't pay to have a whole new rack of ribbons sewn on just to add that one.
Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:56 PM
Edited by ItemCo16527, 30 October 2008 - 07:59 PM.
Posted 31 October 2008 - 05:45 AM
Posted 31 October 2008 - 10:06 AM
Posted 02 November 2008 - 08:55 PM
I believe the correct order of precedence is as follows:
What is the correct precedence for the China Service Medal and the China Service Medal (Extended)? Do both take precedence for wear before all WWII service and campaign medals, regardless of when the actual qualifying service was performed? Or is there another precedence for these medals?
Original period of qualification (pre-WWII): the CSM is worn before all WWII service medals.
Second period of qualification (post-WWII): the CSM is worn immediately after the Navy Occupation Medal.
If someone earned both, the medal would be worn before WWII service medals, but with a bronze star device affixed to the ribbon.
Edited by ItemCo16527, 02 November 2008 - 08:56 PM.
Posted 02 November 2008 - 11:33 PM
Edited by Wailuna, 02 November 2008 - 11:47 PM.
Posted 03 November 2008 - 05:35 AM
Posted 03 November 2008 - 08:44 AM
You mention that your uncle's DD-214 mentions his NDSM and China service but not his WWII awards. Is it possible he had a break in service after WWII? The DD-214 was not created until 1950. Prior to that, the Army and Navy had their own separate report of separation forms. If he was discharged at the end of WWII he would have been issued the form then in use by the Navy Department which would have included his World War II service history. If he was later recalled to active duty or reenlisted during Korea, upon his second discharge I believe he would have been issued a new DD-214 reflecting only his service, including any awards earned, during that particular enlistment.
What is the beginning date of his service listed on the DD-214?
Posted 03 November 2008 - 10:55 AM
Seeing his DD Form 214 might be helpful, if you want to post an image of it here.
...His 214 says china service and national defense obviously he has more than that....
There were two usable editions of DD Form 214 in 1955: edition of 1 July 1952 (usable until 1 July 1956) and edition of 1 November 1955 which replaced the 1952 edition. Both editions provided a section for decorations.
I have a DD Form 214 (1955) for a retiring USAF NCO and it lists his decorations spanning his entire career. There were a few omissions but that was sloppy clerkship, as the missing decorations are mentioned in his service record. You will probably need to obtain a copy of your uncle's service record if you want to conclusively establish when he earned a China Service Medal. As for why he is not wearing it in this picture, the "frugal" hypothesis is as good as any. Another is that the served in China, and earned the CSM, after the picture was made.
Posted 03 November 2008 - 05:02 PM
Edited by dzandkw, 03 November 2008 - 05:02 PM.
Posted 04 November 2008 - 04:41 PM
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