stucky151 Posted August 19, 2017 Share #1 Posted August 19, 2017 Snagged this in a lot with terrible pictures. Believe this to be a 1920s first pattern HH. Could not find an example in either reference book. Any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stucky151 Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted August 19, 2017 Maybe someone has its mate amd wants to get rid of it?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warguy Posted August 20, 2017 Share #4 Posted August 20, 2017 Isn't this the one sometimes referred to as the "dancing eagle". Mate to the early unmarked H-H cap,piece? Nice pick regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer521 Posted August 20, 2017 Share #5 Posted August 20, 2017 In Klie's book, look on page 214 top left grouping: "the "Beast." The collar emblems have the same styling, note the talons. You may have found a gem. If it is a match than you have one of the rear finds, congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted August 20, 2017 I have heard the term dancing bid but it can be used on quite a few birds out there, but does have that look to the feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted August 20, 2017 Iif i remember corectly, the ones on page 214 are chinese made and have a full screw back post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted August 20, 2017 Nope, those Chinese ones are Darrells and are very different than those on page 214. The ones next to the beast have the closest resemblance to this piece. Wish there were back pictures. Maybe Darrell or Jeff can posts backs if they see this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stucky151 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted August 20, 2017 Holding it up the ega on 214, I do believe it is a match! Thats pretty exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted August 21, 2017 Share #10 Posted August 21, 2017 Going off memory. These are different than the typical 1st run H&H or the ones marked Fire Bronze, that are found more readily. Note the softer construction and details of this piece. I believed them to be later 1920s. They can be easily bent, inferior metal compared to Fire Bronze marked. I had a pair with screw posts and don't think I've seen your post back version. Needless to say this style, imo, is very very difficult to find. Post back even harder. Nice find! jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcaviator Posted August 24, 2017 Share #11 Posted August 24, 2017 My research: Made in service and dress from the 1920's to 1930's, in many different materials, post backed, pinbacked and clutch back. Hardest to find is the dress 10k versions, as these were mainly depression era pieces (normally cheap plating/washes and materials). I believe these are the collar mate to the hat EGA that this forum has dubbed "Beast". Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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