Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2017 Hi all, Here is one of my latest finds. I believe its a Model 1822 but i,m not sure Need some cleaning and repair some missing/minor parts like hammer and sling swivel Sling is unknown to me but its some kind of twill canvas material. There a lots of carvings in the wood like a cross and on the butt some interesting ones they almost look like tactical signs bit this could me interpretation Nice bonus it comes with a Bayonet US marked Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted July 27, 2017 front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted July 27, 2017 lockplate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted July 27, 2017 Butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted July 27, 2017 Barrel markings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outtair Posted July 27, 2017 Share #8 Posted July 27, 2017 You can buy the S side plate for back side of the stock. I have had several old US rifles and carvings on the stock is common in the 1800 and early 1900's, especially by Southern USA men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted July 27, 2017 Thank you, There are enough parts to find so that will be no big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted July 28, 2017 Share #10 Posted July 28, 2017 That's a great find. Is there a date behind the Springfield marking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted July 28, 2017 Thank you, The lockplate is marked with 1832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron norman Posted July 29, 2017 Share #12 Posted July 29, 2017 The Rifle/musket woul have started life as a FLINTLOCK and has been converted to Percussion probably in the 1840s to 1850s. The quality of the conversion to percussion appears to be an arsenal job and after conversion these Rifle / Muskets were usually sent to the State Militias. I cant tell for sure but in one of your photographs it appears to have a CROWN stamped in the bottom of the barrel which could mean a French or British barrel might have been used in the conversion. The muskets are hard to find in full stocks. Are there any inspector marks visible in the wood in the stock opposite the lock ??? Ron Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted July 30, 2017 Thank you Ron for the reply. As far i can see there is no Crown the only markings are (E) I XX 43 and 10 on the bottom On the side on the barrel there is a marking 69 Top side barrel there is a marking P so i,m thinking its a US barrel converted Cone in barrel system style Wood is dirty so hard to find a inspector mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommatt3 Posted August 4, 2017 Share #14 Posted August 4, 2017 The barrel was converted by cutting off the rear, threading inside of the barrel and installing a new rear 'plug' with a bolster and nipple. 'H&P' (Hewes & Philips) marked ones were done in Newark, NJ for both the state of New Jersey and the federal govt. That one company alone did over 20,000 muskets. I know your gun is not marked H&P, but I keep looking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWIIDADS Posted August 4, 2017 Share #15 Posted August 4, 2017 The carvings look alot like cartographers symbols for foot and Railroad bridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marktk36thIL Posted March 4, 2019 Share #16 Posted March 4, 2019 The Ames Patent breech alteration method was used by something like twenty-two different companies. Unfortunately, most of the twenty-two did not identify their alterations the way H&P did. If you look carefully, you should see a line running horizontally across the barrel to show where they cut the breech off and screwed in a new breech. Your musket should be rifled for .69 mine balls. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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