marshallsarsenal Posted July 23, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 23, 2017 Looking to restore that WWII ammo box and the hardware is missing, bent or rusted beyond use? Or maybe you want to build your own military box, well Marshall's Arsenal has this hard-to-find hardware. It is NEW and the real deal! Manufactured according to military specification designated Mil-B-2427G (AR), it will give your boxes all it needs to be correct. Hasp - Part 8796523 and Clasp Swivel - Part 8796520 Hinge - Part 8796524 Correct Slotted brass screws in packs of 25 also available. Check them all out at www.marshallsarsenal.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted July 23, 2017 Share #2 Posted July 23, 2017 Hi Marshall, I believe these are post WWII hinges...I believe WWII boxes will have 4 or 5 screws holding them to the box...I will try and post some pics later. Rgds, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallsarsenal Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted July 23, 2017 Mike, Thanks for the great samples of your hinges and hardware that you described. I have never seen this hardware and use of Phillips head screws among all the original US WWII ammo boxes and crates I have or have seen but am always willing to be corrected and educated in the history and details of this stuff. I would love to hear from others more educated in this matter on the subject. I am not sure the exact time or transition of this type of hardware I have was adopted by the military or when Phillips head screws were first used but always thought a US WWII crate would have slotted screws vs Phillips head screws. This would be the tell tail sign (among other things) to identify an original. Thanks again for the info and pictures. Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted July 23, 2017 Share #4 Posted July 23, 2017 Marshall, Here is a thread about a WWII Grenade box that has these screws in them. Interesting info I learned about that screw. Post # 28 "Ahhhh.....the Philips Screw discussion. What you you have there Dirt Detective is not a Philips Screw head. Let me explain: while true, the development of the Phillips style screw head was made prior to WWII, wide spread use was not integrated into military production until after WWII. The Frearson screw drive, also known as the Reed and Prince screw, is similar to a Phillips, but the Frearson has a more pointed 75° V shape. Most mis-identify the "X" screw head in 1940s military items as a Phillips, but it is actually a Reed and Prince....and 100% correct." http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/204150-wwii-mkii-frag-crate-with-canisters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallsarsenal Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted July 23, 2017 Mike, This is so cool to learn. Thanks for posting. I will definitely keep looking for this type of hardware and screw. Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted July 23, 2017 Share #6 Posted July 23, 2017 I have seen boxes as early as 1953 with the 3 screw hinge..maybe questmaster would know when the change was. All my TM's with WWII dates show the 4 or 5 screw hinge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobL Posted July 25, 2017 Share #7 Posted July 25, 2017 No doubt Mike is right about the three screw hardware as being post World War II - and likely post Korean-war as well. The Reed and Prince screw heads are pretty cool - and probably collectible in and of themselves! (for those fastener fans out there!). Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshallsarsenal Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted July 25, 2017 All, This is all good stuff to learn. I wish I could find the WWII hardware as this hardware was hard enough to find. I will just have to label my hardware Military Hardware. Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Detective Posted December 8, 2017 Share #9 Posted December 8, 2017 All, This is all good stuff to learn. I wish I could find the WWII hardware as this hardware was hard enough to find. I will just have to label my hardware Military Hardware. Marshall https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-Military-Ammo-Crate-Box-Hardware-Set/282706521833?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 " WWII US Military Ammo Crate/Box Hardware Set " Somebody not knowing might think these would be good for a WWII repo box they might be making?? Not cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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