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#1 [email protected]

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:14 PM

Anyone know how to identify the national guard state unit this shako belongs to or even the era?

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#2 ludwigh1980

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:12 PM

I believe New York National Guard.  A picture of the inside lining would be helpful to determine age as that style of headgear was used well into the 20th Century including and still today by West Point Cadets. 



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 09:36 PM

Here's some pics of the inside. Yea. As you mentioned. mostly military academies were using these at least in the U.S by the 1900s.

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 10:29 AM

Hey Frank,

Agreed it's in the style of your basic cadet shako that still exists today.

19th century State National Guards were able to design uniforms of their own choosing. So you can't look up some army general orders and nail down the date. My guess is any time post civil war onward.

The key of course is the badge. And research. This is how I do it:
1.) Google "National Guard" shako badge medal pin hat "pom-pon" etc. in different combinations. Be sure to try "new york" in a couple searches because you got that tip. Etc etc.
2.) Look at images and scroll down. It may take you 1, 10 , 20 or more different searches before you find something similar, or give up.
3.) You ID the badge. Then Google what you discovered, "new jersey" "national Guard" dress parade 1886 1888 1918 etc. etc. and look at images. Look at every image for soldiers in shakos. With luck, it's a blog with photos and info about someone's g-great grandfather and what he did before he met g-great grandma.

That's all the fun. And you end up discovering so much more that helps you ID stuff in the future.

Good luck!
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#5 ludwigh1980

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 10:02 PM

Based on the lining of the bill and construction: early 20th century. 




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