Kurt_E Posted June 29, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 29, 2017 Just got this nice one-man grouping from NCO who served in Quartermaster (according to collar insignia) Corps ~20 years ago. What I have here: - Quartermaster Corps Regimental Insignia Type 1 (1986-1994) - Quartermaster Corps Regimental Insignia Type 2 (1994-nowadays) - gold SPC collar rank insignia for the shirt - pair of 718 Transportation Batallion DUI. - three collar discs - pair of subdued SGT rank insignia - Army Meritous Unit Citation ribbon with frame - ribbon rack 1: ARCOM, Army Achievment Medal - ribbon rack 2: ARCOM with 1 Bronze Oak Leaf; Army Achievment Medal with 1 Bronze Oak Leaf; Army Good Conduct Medal with 2 Bronze Knots; NDSM; Southwest Asia Service Medal with 2 Bronze Stars; Army NCO Professional Development Ribbon; Army Service Ribbon; Army Overseas Service Ribbon; Kuwait Liberation Medal (Soudi Arabia); Kuwait Liberation of Kuwait ribbon. - ribbon rack 3: Army Good Conduct Medal; Army Service Ribbon; Army Overseas Service Ribbon. - Sharpshooter badge without clasp - Rifle Expert badge - 83d Inf. Div. SSI - 2nd Cav. Reg. SSI (subdued) And the main question for me is: How 718th Trans. Batallion (which belongs to the Transportation Corps obviously) DUIs can go together with Quartermaster Corps collar discs? As I've been told this NCO always served in Quartermaster Corps. But these DUIs of 718th Trans. Bn. confuse me. редактор картинок Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettow Posted June 29, 2017 Share #2 Posted June 29, 2017 The collar disks represent the soldiers branch. The DUI represent the unit he was assigned to. He was in supply (branch) in a transportation unit (DUI). I was MI. My collar disks were MI but when I served with a cavalry squadron I wore its DUI and when I served in an MI battalion I wore its DUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted June 29, 2017 Share #3 Posted June 29, 2017 The collar disks represent the soldiers branch. The DUI represent the unit he was assigned to. He was in supply (branch) in a transportation unit (DUI). I was MI. My collar disks were MI but when I served with a cavalry squadron I wore its DUI and when I served in an MI battalion I wore its DUI. The collar disks represent the soldiers branch. The DUI represent the unit he was assigned to. He was in supply (branch) in a transportation unit (DUI). I was MI. My collar disks were MI but when I served with a cavalry squadron I wore its DUI and when I served in an MI battalion I wore its DUI. Exactly. I was a medic(91A) and wore the Medical Corps collar brass, but was assigned to an Infantry Regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted June 29, 2017 Thanx for the answers! I thought so but wanted to be sure enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted June 30, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 30, 2017 It was back around 1976-77 that soldiers started in general to wear the Branch of Service (BOS) insignia of their branch rather than the BOS insignia of the unit. I had an engineer MOS but wore the collar disk that matched the various units to which I was assigned- Artillery, Military Police, Signal Corps, Unassigned. But, when assigned to the garrisons at Ft. MacArthur, CA and Ft. Wainwright, AK I wore my MOS BOS insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted June 30, 2017 It was back around 1976-77 that soldiers started in general to wear the Branch of Service (BOS) insignia of their branch rather than the BOS insignia of the unit. I had an engineer MOS but wore the collar disk that matched the various units to which I was assigned- Artillery, Military Police, Signal Corps, Unassigned. But, when assigned to the garrisons at Ft. MacArthur, CA and Ft. Wainwright, AK I wore my MOS BOS insignia. Wow, didn't know that fact! Very interesting but I assume it was against the regulations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted June 30, 2017 Share #7 Posted June 30, 2017 It was back around 1976-77 that soldiers started in general to wear the Branch of Service (BOS) insignia of their branch rather than the BOS insignia of the unit. I had an engineer MOS but wore the collar disk that matched the various units to which I was assigned- Artillery, Military Police, Signal Corps, Unassigned. But, when assigned to the garrisons at Ft. MacArthur, CA and Ft. Wainwright, AK I wore my MOS BOS insignia. That is interesting. I had never heard of that before. Even in WW2 you see enlisted wearing their MOS BOS insignia, i.e.: medic wearing medical corps even if in an infantry unit. QM in the AAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted June 30, 2017 Share #8 Posted June 30, 2017 Wow, didn't know that fact! Very interesting but I assume it was against the regulations? No. That was as far as I knew the regulation way it was done when I entered the Army in 1970. In about 1976-1977, I was assigned to Recruiting Command at their Support Center and we all wore Unassigned to Branch collar brass as a unit. It then changed to the wear of MOS branch brass and I switched to Corps of Engineers. Unassigned to Branch BOS insignia was changed over for wear by Command Sergeants Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted August 26, 2017 I DO want to restore this NCO's Service Green uniform BUT I don't know what SSI and SSI-FWTS should be appropriate. According to the DUIs he served in 718th Transportation Battallion. And the patches are: 83rd United States Army Reserve Readiness Training Center and subdued one is 2nd Cav. Reg. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted August 26, 2017 Share #10 Posted August 26, 2017 2nd ACR was probably his combat service, DS/DS. But you need a colored patch to match the uniform.You will also need at least one combat o/s bar and at least 2 service stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #11 Posted August 26, 2017 2nd ACR was probably his combat service, DS/DS. But you need a colored patch to match the uniform.You will also need at least one combat o/s bar and at least 2 service stripes. What is DS/DS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefighter Posted August 26, 2017 Share #12 Posted August 26, 2017 What is DS/DS? Sorry Desert Shield/Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted August 27, 2017 Thought so, thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted August 27, 2017 Share #14 Posted August 27, 2017 2nd ACR was probably his combat service, DS/DS. But you need a colored patch to match the uniform.You will also need at least one combat o/s bar and at least 2 service stripes. I do not believe that the 2nd ACR was in theater long enough to earn an overseas bar. They arrived in theater too late to earn a "Defense of Saudi Arabia" campaign star, and my recollection is that they left theater not that long after the ground war came to a halt. It would have been far too short a period to get an overseas bar. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted August 27, 2017 Share #15 Posted August 27, 2017 If the soldier was wearing the "83rd Inf. Div. SSI" from 1968 to 1996, he was in the 83rd Army Reserve Command (ARCOM). By 1968, the 83rd Inf Div was gone and the 83rd ARCOM was allowed to use the SSI even though it was not connected by lineage to the 83rd Inf Div. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted August 28, 2017 If the soldier was wearing the "83rd Inf. Div. SSI" from 1968 to 1996, he was in the 83rd Army Reserve Command (ARCOM). By 1968, the 83rd Inf Div was gone and the 83rd ARCOM was allowed to use the SSI even though it was not connected by lineage to the 83rd Inf Div. The main mystery for me is: was 718th Trans. Bn. detached to 83rd ARCOM or to 2nd AC Reg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted August 28, 2017 So what I managed to figure out 'bout his service according to his ribbons rack and Quartermaster Reg. insignia is: - He enlisted prior to 1990 (due to the Southwest Asia Service Medal and first type [plain gold] of Quartermaster Regimental Insignia) - He served at least for 8 or 9 years (due to the Good Conduct Medal with two bronze knots) and finished as Sergeant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted August 28, 2017 Share #18 Posted August 28, 2017 The 718th Trans Bn is an Army Reserve unit out of Columbus, OH and has been since 1959. That fits the wear of 83rd ARCOM SSI. The Lineage and Honors statement for the 718th is available on the US Army Center of Military History web site under the tab "Unit History." Then hit "Organizational History," click on "Lineage and Honors," and scroll down to "Transportation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted August 28, 2017 The 718th Trans Bn is an Army Reserve unit out of Columbus, OH and has been since 1959. That fits the wear of 83rd ARCOM SSI. The Lineage and Honors statement for the 718th is available on the US Army Center of Military History web site under the tab "Unit History." Then hit "Organizational History," click on "Lineage and Honors," and scroll down to "Transportation." Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted August 30, 2017 I'm planning to begin the restoration of the uniform from badging up the AG-415 short-sleeve shirt. What I want to use are: pair of his SPC4 collar insignia, Quartermaster Corps Reg. insignia above the right pocket and one of ribbons rack above the left pocket. Can I go with this one rack for SPC4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted August 30, 2017 Share #21 Posted August 30, 2017 OK, I didn't have anything better to do, so I thought I would see if I could run this to ground. I would say that your veteran was a reservist in the 83rd ARCOM and was assigned to the 718th Transportation Battalion. The 718th Trans BN did not deploy to Saudi Arabia, but several subordinate units did- the 656th, 660th, 706th, and 762nd Transportation Companies. The 869th and 957th Movement Control Teams also deployed. I also found references to the 1485th Trans Co. and the 1001st Field Service Company who were 718th Trans BN subordinates who deployed. None of the units listed above were ever assigned to the 2nd Armored Cav Regiment. The 656th Trans Co would have worn the 16th Corps Support Group SSI The 660th Trans Co would have worn the 32nd Trans Group SSI The 706th Trans Co. would have worn the 7th Trans Group SSI The 762nd Trans Co would have worn the 32nd Trans Group SSI The 1485th Trans Co would have worn the 32nd Trans Group SSI IF your veteran served in the 1001st Field Service Company, he would have served in the 1st Cavalry Division. This was the only Quartermaster unit that I found assigned to the 718th Trans Battalion. Most of the soldiers in that company would have been quartermaster branch. In the other units listed above, the only soldiers who would have been QM branch would have been the unit supply soldiers- two per company. One would have probably been the Class IX (repair parts) clerk. The ribbons that you show include the overseas service ribbon for active duty. It is possible that your vet earned this ribbon while serving with the 2nd ACR. It is NOT a Desert Shield award. As the soldier had oak leaf clusters on each of the ARMCOM and AAM ribbons, I would say that if you were dressing a shirt, go ahead and use both the three place and the two place ribbon bars. I hope this helps. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share #22 Posted August 30, 2017 Many thanx, Allan! And what do you think 'bout dressing a Service Green Coat with SSI of 83rd ARCOM and SSI-FWTS of 2nd ACR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan H. Posted August 31, 2017 Share #23 Posted August 31, 2017 Many thanx, Allan! And what do you think 'bout dressing a Service Green Coat with SSI of 83rd ARCOM and SSI-FWTS of 2nd ACR? I think it would be great for you to build a uniform to represent the veteran. The ribbons don't include an AFRM, so I would assume that the veteran was on active duty, served in DS/DS and then went into the reserves after the fact. I'd say go ahead and build it as you see fit with a 2nd ACR combat patch. It would be impossible to know for sure what the real answer is. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted August 31, 2017 I think it would be great for you to build a uniform to represent the veteran. The ribbons don't include an AFRM, so I would assume that the veteran was on active duty, served in DS/DS and then went into the reserves after the fact. I'd say go ahead and build it as you see fit with a 2nd ACR combat patch. It would be impossible to know for sure what the real answer is. Allan Thanx once again! When the project of restoration is done - I'll post photos of the result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt_E Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share #25 Posted August 31, 2017 Restoration begins. That's how AG-415 short-sleeve shirt looks now with two rows of ribbons and Quartermaster Reg. Insignia Type 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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