easterneagle87 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2017 Saw this 82nd patch in a local antique store. I think it's bad, but, but like to hear from the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted June 22, 2017 A shot of the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocsfollowme Posted June 22, 2017 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2017 It is not original to 1950s and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomorgan Posted June 22, 2017 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2017 Looks like a TM for DCU probably done during the last few years of our current war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashdive Posted June 22, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 22, 2017 I was thinking TM from OIF/OEF as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitaryPicker1941 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 22, 2017 Looks like one of the repros coming out of Vietnam now. Plus I haven't seen any modern theatre made patch that looked like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #7 Posted June 22, 2017 I can't quite make out what the base color is supposed to be...olive or some version of tan. That funky green thread has shown up in a lot of Korean made patches that were made for GI use in Korea in the early 1980's. Plus it looks like it may have been mounted to a scrap book. So I am not quite ready to write it off as a repro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted June 22, 2017 The base color is olive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted June 22, 2017 Better shot of the back. I should have added, it was listed as "Vietnam". Am still skeptical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitaryPicker1941 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #10 Posted June 22, 2017 To me this patch looks similar in construction to a lot of strike-force-7 patches. Here's an example of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitaryPicker1941 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #11 Posted June 22, 2017 Reverse I might be wrong, but my gut is telling me that the patch that started this thread isn't good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted June 22, 2017 Share #12 Posted June 22, 2017 I know why you are suspicious of the 82nd patch, and the reproductions coming out of Vietnam are the first thing that come to mind. But there are significant differences between these two patches. The backing material is not the same. The material on the 82nd is more solid, the Mike force one looks loser woven. Look at the reverse threads on the 82nd behind the "AA" portion. This looks like done by a hand guided sewing machine that would have been typical of the 1970's and 80's. Then look at the weave of the skull and cross bones of the Mike Force patch. This one was made by a computer guided modern machine. The backside of the Mike Force patch has suffered artificial aging, most likely by tea or coffee staining to make it look older. There is no such abuse of the 82nd patch. There are a lot of fakes coming out of Vietnam, made a lot of different ways. But that funky green thread is almost a signature for early Korean made subdued patches. If this was cheap ($10), I'd pick it up on the chance it was good. But you have to have a comfort level with these. If you still have doubts, walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted June 22, 2017 At the tag price of $20. I'm walking away. Not like it's going any where soon. Here's (what I would think as well) is a bad "Vietnam" 101st patch that is being sold along side. Maybe this a is more evidence that since they are together it leads in a direction away from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted June 23, 2017 Share #14 Posted June 23, 2017 I agree that the OP patch has the look of copies coming out of present day Asia.It even has the glued on paper that many of the repros are now sporting in an effort to fool collectors.easterneagle87,I think that you did well to walk away from this one.Just my two pesos. The other patch that is with it is a modern copy too IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted June 23, 2017 Share #15 Posted June 23, 2017 The 101st is definately fake. A common reacurring trend to see these new made patches in antique mall. Local SF vet showed me some SOG patches he picked up last year in Arizona where he winters.He said they are just like the ones he had...not so much.They were new made.He wanted them to sew on a jacket.Told him they were perfect for that.I didnt say they were fake and it wouldnt have mattered to him in the least as he isnt a collector. THis brings up the next/latest evolution thats happening.The items coming from vets as they are buying them on line or in shops as replacements then they filter through the estate and people will see them as real.Not a new scenario at any rate as the WW2-Korea vets had done this to some extent with reunion patches etc but seems more common place now with the internet and availability of the reproductions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadet Posted June 24, 2017 Share #16 Posted June 24, 2017 I think the 82nd patch was made in Iraq.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all-bull Posted June 24, 2017 Share #17 Posted June 24, 2017 I believe I have some theater made desert storm era patches made very similar to the 82nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwb123 Posted June 24, 2017 Share #18 Posted June 24, 2017 I think the 82nd patch was made in Iraq.... Now that you have said that, the white cloth on the back does look like some of the material used on some of the early Desert Storm patches made in theater. The 101sthe patch is a definite fake, but not related to the 82nd patch in any real way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easterneagle87 Posted June 25, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted June 25, 2017 I don't think the 82nd is Iraq made. With the other 3 patches it was stuck to the board with, they were listed as Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted June 26, 2017 Share #20 Posted June 26, 2017 I've seen modern copies from Vietnam with the same construction style as the 82nd patch being discussed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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