BILL THE PATCH Posted June 11, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 11, 2017 I just picked up these DUI's nice Meyer marked screw backs, I have a question. Ate these for the 45th div, or the Bushmasters. Would the Bushmasters have worn these as there own?and how rare are these?, I think the motto is misspelled. Made by Meyer. There's a pair for the lapel and I guess one for the overseas hat. Any Info on these DUI's is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL THE PATCH Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted June 11, 2017 Would they be Sterling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flytiger Posted June 12, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 12, 2017 158th I would bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathfinder505 Posted June 12, 2017 Share #7 Posted June 12, 2017 A quick google search says 158th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredhed2 Posted June 14, 2017 Share #8 Posted June 14, 2017 Capistrano, a much better and more accurate research than google, might take a little longer too, says design authorized 25 Apr 28 for 158th IR. Relieved from 45th ID 11 Feb 42. Since all are SBs, could be either one, especially the early 42 AND since these came in pairs. Could be later war, as not everyone wore DIs nor did they all wear these. However, the KNOWN WW II 158th Bushmasters look like the cloth insignia with bushmaster snake curled around bolo. You should buy his books, way better'n google every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd12 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 20, 2017 These are DI's of the 158th Infantry Regiment From the institute of Heraldry; http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/HeraldryMulti.aspx?CategoryId=8848&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services Background The distinctive unit insignia was originally approved for the 158th Infantry Regiment, Arizona National Guard on 22 July 1924. It was amended to authorize its wear in pairs on 11 April 1926. It was amended to prescribe wear by enlisted personnel on the lapel collar coat on 25 April 1928. It was amended to change the description on 24 July 1930. It was redesignated for the 1581st Military Police Battalion, Arizona Army National Guard on 14 August 1969. The insignia was redesignated for the 158th Military Police Battalion, Arizona Army National Guard on 26 September 1969. It was redesignated for the 153d Field Artillery Group, Arizona Army National Guard on 4 August 1976. It was redesignated for the 153d Field Artillery Brigade, Arizona Army National Guard on 9 January 1979. The insignia was cancelled on 30 March 1998. It was redesignated for the 158th Regiment, Arizona Army National Guard with description and symbolism revised on 7 May 1998. The insignia was redesignated for the 158th Infantry Regiment, Arizona Army National Guard with symbolism revised on 22 November 2005. The motto "CUIDADO" (Take Care) is both a warning and a caution. A warning to those who oppose the Regiment and a caution to those who belong to it. See also: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/241796-158th-infantry-dui/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredhed2 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #10 Posted September 20, 2017 These are DI's of the 158th Infantry Regiment From the institute of Heraldry; http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Catalog/HeraldryMulti.aspx?CategoryId=8848&grp=2&menu=Uniformed%20Services Background The distinctive unit insignia was originally approved for the 158th Infantry Regiment, Arizona National Guard on 22 July 1924. It was amended to authorize its wear in pairs on 11 April 1926. It was amended to prescribe wear by enlisted personnel on the lapel collar coat on 25 April 1928. It was amended to change the description on 24 July 1930. It was redesignated for the 1581st Military Police Battalion, Arizona Army National Guard on 14 August 1969. The insignia was redesignated for the 158th Military Police Battalion, Arizona Army National Guard on 26 September 1969. It was redesignated for the 153d Field Artillery Group, Arizona Army National Guard on 4 August 1976. It was redesignated for the 153d Field Artillery Brigade, Arizona Army National Guard on 9 January 1979. The insignia was cancelled on 30 March 1998. It was redesignated for the 158th Regiment, Arizona Army National Guard with description and symbolism revised on 7 May 1998. The insignia was redesignated for the 158th Infantry Regiment, Arizona Army National Guard with symbolism revised on 22 November 2005. The motto "CUIDADO" (Take Care) is both a warning and a caution. A warning to those who oppose the Regiment and a caution to those who belong to it. See also: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/241796-158th-infantry-dui/ Unfortunately, TIOH does not take into account these DIs are SB, hence, my explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd12 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 20, 2017 I think I'm confused by the original question then. I thought he was asking if the Di's posted were for the 45th IN DIV or the 158th IN RGT. As to when they were worn, i.e. while the 158th was attached to the 45th ID, while it was in Panama, or while it was attached to the 6th Army - that would be hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredhed2 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 21, 2017 I think I'm confused by the original question then. I thought he was asking if the Di's posted were for the 45th IN DIV or the 158th IN RGT. As to when they were worn, i.e. while the 158th was attached to the 45th ID, while it was in Panama, or while it was attached to the 6th Army - that would be hard to say. They were worn while the 158th was assigned to the 45th, so they were for the 158th IR. They may or may not have been worn after Feb 42, while it was a separate regt, but we both know the preferred WW II 158ths are those that look like the SSI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd12 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 21, 2017 With regards to the DI's that look like the SSI, I have only ever seen "theater made" variations. And I have not seen any in metal. Only coconut or pressed fiber material. There are some metal SSi type DIs out there, but I think they are post-war/occupation era. I would assume this style DI was solely sourced locally, and once the 158th headed back stateside the "cuidado" DI was worn. Here is one example in pressed paper/fiber; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd12 Posted September 21, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 21, 2017 Here are two more in metal, both Japanese made I believe; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd12 Posted September 22, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 22, 2017 Here's a neat photo from the 45th Infantry Division Museum facebook page. It says this display hung in the office of various Division Commanders over the years. Dated 1938.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL THE PATCH Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted September 22, 2017 I originally asked the question because I wanted to display the DUIs with my Aussie made Bushmaster patch. But I guess I cannot seems it's more of a 45th div DUI. Great info you guys, thanks Sent from my XT1031 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredhed2 Posted September 23, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 23, 2017 Here's a neat photo from the 45th Infantry Division Museum facebook page. It says this display hung in the office of various Division Commanders over the years. Dated 1938.. That is a very attractive chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilRGRHistory Posted September 23, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 23, 2017 Does anyone have photos of the bone 158th RCT DUIs that sold on eBay in the last two years? There was also a bone CIB listed at the same time. They were supposedly Philippine made but used the same coiled snake design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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