Shoreleave Posted May 31, 2017 Share #1 Posted May 31, 2017 Greetings folks. So my grandfather had this old rifle always hanging on the wall of his house. He always told me it was just a toy. When he passed he left it to me and I obviously started to fiddle with it since that's kinda what I do and well, I thought it was just a toy. Well when the breech popped open I began to think this is probably not a toy at all. On the breech I can just barely make out something that looks like 184? so I'm guessing that's a date. Unfortunately my knowledge is rather limited on black powder rifles so I'm not even sure what I'd type to search this thing up to find out a value on it or information on what exactly it is. Any ideas out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwigh1980 Posted May 31, 2017 Share #2 Posted May 31, 2017 Looks to be a Model 1840 Hall Cavalry Carbine. Missing a hammer. Neat piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoreleave Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted May 31, 2017 Looks to be a Model 1840 Hall Cavalry Carbine. Missing a hammer. Neat piece. HUZZAH! I think you're correct. Mine does have an oddball breech release in comparison. Looks like most have a weird lever on the side and mine has that little flip around bit that just pokes it up from the bottom. Well, I now have a starting point to research from. Thanks again for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warroom1 Posted May 31, 2017 Share #4 Posted May 31, 2017 try s and s firearms in glendale queens ny for parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linedoggie Posted June 1, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 1, 2017 IIRC the removable breech could be used as a sort of pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARV72 Posted June 1, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 1, 2017 Nice piece, hard to find. Well worth cleaning it the correct way and repairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoreleave Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share #7 Posted June 2, 2017 Nice piece, hard to find. Well worth cleaning it the correct way and repairing. Yeah, I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with it. I'm honestly not that big into Civil War and earlier collecting and it really wasn't something my grandfather truly valued. It was just kinda a wallhanger. Now the Type99 Arisaka with the mum still intact he brought back, that will stay in the family. This carbine, albeit incredibly cool, will probably get moved on to some more capable hands than my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoreleave Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted June 21, 2017 Well just identified it further as an 1840 Halls Type I Cavalry Model. Only 500 were ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted June 21, 2017 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2017 Dang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marktk36thIL Posted March 4, 2019 Share #10 Posted March 4, 2019 Are the parts frozen in place? Any markings on the top of the breech block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray42 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #11 Posted March 4, 2019 Wow that is an amazing find and would make for a really cool restoration project. I beleive that one of these is on display at West Point, they had a fascinating display on early multishot and breech loading prototypes the last time I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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