DCU pick up at flea market

[Tonomachi]

I picked up this DCU at the flea market yesterday as it was real cheap at 5 dollars and none of the patches have been removed. It has the early flesh colored tapes and I noted no paratrooper wing even though there is an 82nd Airborne Division SSI on the right shoulder. I was in the process of packing the shirt away with others I've come across at the flea market when I decided to check the last name of Elliott on the Internet. I found a possible (see link) match for a Master Sergeant Curtis "Bobby" Elliott who was the recipient of the Soldiers Medal. The size looks correct and the attached photograph of Mst Sgt Elliott shows his dress uniform minus any paratrooper wing.

 

https://www.army.mil/article/8333/master-sergeant-awarded-soldiers-medal-for-saving-lives

 

 

 

 

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Photos

[Martinjmpr]

Probably served in a sub-unit that was under the 82nd in the sandbox, and his sub-unit was not airborne. I see this a lot (even funnier was the first time I ever saw a female soldier with a Special Forces combat patch. Turns out she was in a Public Affairs unit that worked directly under 5th SF Group during Desert Storm.)

 

In theory, every soldier assigned to the 82nd is supposed to be airborne qualified but in practice (especially in wartime) if they need a soldier with a special skill, they'll take them whether they're airborne or not.

 

And of course the rule for FWTS-SSI (aka the Combat Patch) does not require that the soldier actually be assigned to the unit, only that the unit is the legitimate higher HQ (for example, a soldier who is part of a non-airborne unit that is task-organized and falls under the 82nd for a deployment would be authorized to wear the 82nd's SSI as their combat patch.)

[Tonomachi]

Probably served in a sub-unit that was under the 82nd in the sandbox, and his sub-unit was not airborne. I see this a lot (even funnier was the first time I ever saw a female soldier with a Special Forces combat patch. Turns out she was in a Public Affairs unit that worked directly under 5th SF Group during Desert Storm.)

 

In theory, every soldier assigned to the 82nd is supposed to be airborne qualified but in practice (especially in wartime) if they need a soldier with a special skill, they'll take them whether they're airborne or not.

 

And of course the rule for FWTS-SSI (aka the Combat Patch) does not require that the soldier actually be assigned to the unit, only that the unit is the legitimate higher HQ (for example, a soldier who is part of a non-airborne unit that is task-organized and falls under the 82nd for a deployment would be authorized to wear the 82nd's SSI as their combat patch.)

Wow thanks for this explanation as I didn't know this.

[Linedoggie]

Parent unit 164th Air Defence Artillery Brigade Florida Army National Guard.

 

Subunits-

1st Bn, 265th Air Defense Artillery Regiment (Avenger)

3rd Bn, 265th Air Defense Artillery Regiment (Avenger)

715th Military Police Company

[Tonomachi]

Parent unit 164th Air Defence Artillery Brigade Florida Army National Guard.

 

Subunits-

1st Bn, 265th Air Defense Artillery Regiment (Avenger)

3rd Bn, 265th Air Defense Artillery Regiment (Avenger)

715th Military Police Company

I wondered what the left shoulder patch represented and thanks for the identification and this information.

[Martinjmpr]

I wondered what the left shoulder patch represented and thanks for the identification and this information.

 

Left shoulder is always current unit of assignment, right shoulder is former wartime unit, usually referred to as a "combat patch."

[HoovieDude]

I went to ANCOC with Elliot, and he was an RA 19D. Don't think this is his DCU top considering the SSI is an NG ADA BDE . As an aside, he was in a commercial a number of years ago, as a Drill Sergeant. Don't recall the product though, maybe a laundry detergent?

 

[Tonomachi]

I went to ANCOC with Elliot, and he was an RA 19D. Don't think this is his DCU top considering the SSI is an NG ADA BDE . As an aside, he was in a commercial a number of years ago, as a Drill Sergeant. Don't recall the product though, maybe a laundry detergent?

 

Just saw your comments and thanks for sharing this information.

[HoovieDude]

Just saw your comments and thanks for sharing this information.

 

No worries, and you're welcome. Used to have pictures of him from the school house, but cannot find them.