Posted 15 March 2017 - 09:23 PM
Rick,
In your post about the Franklin you say no pilots were lost. I'm not sure about that. Lt. Linder has a photo + caption indicating 10 didn't come back from the tour. You might want to check the Muster Roll of VMF-214 for March '45. And here's a close up of Lt. Linder's patch.
Cheers!
Adam
Posted 16 March 2017 - 07:37 AM
Adam,
These are wonderful images. How fortunate you were able to get them. I based my statement about no pilot casualties from the Franklin disaster from a source citing Bruce Gamble's The Black Sheep: The Definitive Account of VMF-214 in World War II. I don't have Gamble's book and could not check the citation, but agree it's worth exploring further. Thanks again for sharing.
Best Regards,
Rick
Edited by walika, 16 March 2017 - 07:38 AM.
Posted 17 March 2017 - 07:13 PM
VMF-311
Supplementing posts 209 and 210 from 2010, it seems there were four patches issued during WWII.
Below are three patches from my collection followed by a fourth, another version of the fully embroidered patch, shown in Millstein, p 69.
Type-1 Millstein's First issue; silkscreened on leather
Type-2 Theater-made; embroidered on wool
Type-3 Millstein's Second issue; theater-made fully embroidered. I have scanned Milstein's image and shown it under the other three. The stitched lettering, a raised roaped embroidery, is similar to Type-2.
Type-4 Fully embroidered. The issue more common to collectors, if one can say that about a rare patch, but not the one pictured in Millstein.
The three shown in this first image: Type 1, below which is Type 2 (left) and Type 4 (right).
Below, for comparison, Type-3, shown in Millstein, p 69. It looks to be theater made.
Edited by walika, 17 March 2017 - 07:20 PM.
Posted 18 March 2017 - 01:42 PM
Here is an image of an item not on display at the National Air and Space Museum. VMF-311 logo painted on a mason board.
Cheers,
Rick
Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:49 PM
Not sure on rarity but, Disney decal on leather for VMSB-144.
Posted 25 March 2017 - 02:13 PM
Not sure on rarity but, Disney decal on leather for VMSB-144.
Your Type-2 is a beauty, and not a common patch. Here's Type-1:
Millstein: The word "Hensagliska" is a Sioux Indian word which when literally translated means "little warrior-brave warrior". In 1943 a patch (Type-1) was manufactured in Sydney, Australia during an R&R and issued to flight personnel only. The entire squadron was reunited and returned to the United States in January 1944 for re-organization and retraining. It was during this period in 1944 that the original design was modified and manufactured as an insignia which was issued (Type-2) to all personnel.
In the modified design, the background was changed to light blue, the numeral "144" was deleted for security reasons as was the "daisy-cutter" fuse.
Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:30 AM
VMTB-134, decal on leather. This is from the memorabilia of Maj. Bill Patterson (1920-2012), one of the original 10 "Rockettes". The cockpit photo is on the USS Gilbert Islands while assigned to VMTB-143, 1945.
Edited by Adam Lewis, 26 March 2017 - 11:37 AM.
Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:00 PM
VMTB-134, decal on leather. This is from the memorabilia of Maj. Bill Patterson (1920-2012), one of the original 10 "Rockettes". The cockpit photo is on the USS Gilbert Islands while assigned to VMTB-143, 1945.
Wow, thanks for sharing, Adam. A beautiful VMTB-134, truly a rare patch! On the cockpit photo, it almost looks like he pasted a 143 patch to the fuselage. Rick
Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:19 PM
Here it is being worn by my Grandfather (far left in the service cap) and some others at an R&R outing sometime in late 44 - early 45.
Not sure on rarity but, Disney decal on leather for VMSB-144.
Edited by mit31, 27 March 2017 - 03:19 PM.
Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:39 PM
Pre dates WW2, but a 1930s 6" Aircraft One (much harder to find than the 4" variation) chenille
The 4" patch is on post #85 in this thread.
Edited by ocsfollowme, 27 March 2017 - 03:47 PM.
Posted 28 April 2018 - 09:13 AM
Hello JP.. wasn't sure how to reach out to you as I'm new to the forum; I am the cousin of Maj Robert "Cowboy" Stout and am in the midst of producing a documentary about him and the 114. I was wondering if we could chat re/the patch and logo and anything else you may know about the 114? - thanks in advance DStout
VMF 144 DEATH DEALERS Patch 2nd Design: Recently sold on Ebay. Designed by CO Capt. Robert Stout in 1943, the 1st design was an embroidered Australian made patch issued to Flight personnel only. The 2nd design was silk screened on canvas material and issued to all, purportedly when they ceased combat operations and returned to the states.
World War II
Marine Fighter Squadron 114 was activated on July 11, 1943 at Marine Corps Air Station El Toro. They remained on the West Coast of the United States until August 1943 when they transferred to Marine Corps Air Station Ewa, Hawaii. In Hawaii, they continued their training until moving to Midway Island on December 18, 1943. They returned to Ewa in February 1944 and in March they moved first to Espiritu Santo and the Green Island. While there, they flew strike missions against Japanese garrisons that had been bypassed in the Bismarck Islands.
The first major combat that VMF-114 took part in was the Battle of Peleliu. The squadron arrived on Peleliu on September 17, 1944 and provided most of the close air support (CAS) for Marine Corps forces during the course of the battle. They also provided the preparatory bombing and CAS for the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines when they assaulted Ngesebus during the battle. The terrain on the island, earlier judged unsuitable for anything but the costliest and most difficult advances, was made passable with the aid of preparatory fire-scouring by napalm bombs from 114. MajGen William H. Rupertus, the Commanding General of the 1st Marine Division on Peleliu would say following the battle that the air support provided during the campaign was, "executed in a manner leaving little to be desired. Following the battle, they remained based on the island again assuming the role of attacking bypassed Japanese garrisons in the vicinity of the western Caroline Islands. The squadron remained in the area until they ceased combat operations on June 1, 1945.vmf114_2...____Copy.jpg
Posted 28 April 2018 - 10:51 AM
Hello JP.. wasn't sure how to reach out to you as I'm new to the forum; I am the cousin of Maj Robert "Cowboy" Stout and am in the midst of producing a documentary about him and the 114. I was wondering if we could chat re/the patch and logo and anything else you may know about the 114? - thanks in advance DStout
I posted more about VMF-114, here.
Posted 23 May 2018 - 01:11 PM
These were sold on the USMF on 5/22/18 for these prices. All Australian made.
Raider Battalion $600
Artillery $400
Defense $400
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