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Lend Lease M1 Garands to Britain

Started by arnhem44mad , Apr 21 2017 02:32 AM

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#1 arnhem44mad

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 02:32 AM

Anyone know what serial number rsnge were the ones used for this?

Or most likely to have been used?

Any markings to look for?

I have spoken to one member who has one.

I live in the UK so can really only hope to find Deactivated m1 garands, or get a licence and have a single shot/straight pull M1 Garand.

However I would love to own one of these and hopefully find out some nore information about them!

Scott

Edited by arnhem44mad, 21 April 2017 - 02:41 AM.


#2 ccyooper

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:50 AM

There have been several articles written about them, but the majority of them will fall in the 300-600k range. A tell tale sign for you to look for would be the red band painted on the handguard. Of course it should also have early sights, GHS cartouche, and front sight seal unless it has been modified or changed.

#3 oldfireguy

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:55 AM

Here's a video someone produced on a lend lease Garands. 

 

There are three for sale right now on gunbroker and you can look at them and see some of the characteristics of a LLG.  Non have red bands because most were sanded off years ago and if you do happen to find one with a legit red band it will sell in the 5K+ range.  Red bands are faked and flush nut sights are reproduced so be wary if you are looking for one.  LLG's were not uniformly marked and the markings you see on one may not appear on another. 



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:17 PM

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#5 arnhem44mad

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:09 PM

Front sight seal?

What is this guys

Thanks!

Scott

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:42 PM

It's a metal seal that went over the screw that removes the front sight.  All early Garands had them.



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Posted 22 April 2017 - 05:11 PM

So your saying, the red band adds to the value? I have one, there is no red band but there are tiny flecks of red paint internally.

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Posted 22 April 2017 - 09:23 PM

Here is the front sight screw cap on my rifle. It is a 400,000 serial number gun. 

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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:47 PM

I have a lend lease gun that is in the 529,000 no. range.It only has a couple specs of red paint left.All matching but came from a house that had pretty much fell in.It sat barrel down.so the end of the barrel was rusted shut.



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Posted 24 April 2017 - 06:10 PM

Yes the red band and remnants of red paint add to the value.



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Posted 25 April 2017 - 04:26 AM

So your saying, the red band adds to the value? I have one, there is no red band but there are tiny flecks of red paint internally.

The British added a 2 inch wide red band to the forearms/Barrel Jackets of US .30 weapons so they could be distinguished at a glance as non .303 caliber. You have to remember at the time they had in addition to the SMLE and Vickers

 

P14 rifles in .303 and US M1917 in .30

BSA Lewis Guns and .30 Savage made Lewis guns

.303 Vickers and.30 US M1915 Vickers

.30 M1918 Marlins

Potato Digger 1895 and 1914 Colt Brownings

.30 US M1918 BAR's


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:30 AM

The seal was to keep the GI's from moving the front sight from side to side. It was sighted when built, and only the armorers were supposed to adjust it



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 03:27 AM

Thanks for all the info lafs this is excellent!

Does anyone have pics of a stock with tue red band?

Thanks, Scott

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:38 AM

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:33 PM

Thanks for all the info lafs this is excellent!

Does anyone have pics of a stock with tue red band?

Thanks, Scott

 

LL Red paint 1.jpg

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 02:07 PM

So in the forums opinion. Should a Lend Lease M1 have a flush nut or a short pinion sight?

I have an M1 serial 200442. March 1941.

What are the chances of this having been a lend lease M1?

I have read the article which states that the first appropriation for lend leases was March 28th 1941 from previous stock and current production stock but that they were picked at random!

What are the chances?

Scott

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:49 PM

The "flush nut" and the "type 1 lock bar" rear sight both use a short pinion [I believe].

 

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Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:51 PM

Yeah that's right bud!

Scott


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