Gary B Posted April 3, 2017 Share #1 Posted April 3, 2017 Going thru some wings in my collection and am seeking opinions on this Command Pilot. PIn stops at 45 degrees. Thanks in advance. Gary B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rustywings Posted April 3, 2017 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2017 I like it! Some might be concerned about the space between the shield and the star & wreath... but I think they're factory-made in that fashion by whomever Meyer contracted with to make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mghcal Posted April 3, 2017 Share #8 Posted April 3, 2017 I like it as well! Nice to see a sterling example since most I've seen before are plated brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcatter Posted April 3, 2017 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2017 Very nice wings. I see no "red flags", I think they are genuine.Maybe the wreath has been added by the Pilot himself, who knows.I may be wrong but... could it be pre-WWII vintage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted April 3, 2017 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2017 Command Pilot wings were authorized 10 Nov. 1941. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuftStalg1 Posted April 3, 2017 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2017 Beautiful original period Meyers. You can't effectively fake that natural fine powder spotted erosion of the plating on the back side. Congratulations on the find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcatter Posted April 3, 2017 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2017 Hard to say for sure from photos, but it seems that the spaces between vertical stripes are flat (there aren't small thin vertical stripes between them): I read somewhere that USAAF pre-WWII wings had this feature (in this case, maybe these are pre-WWII wings later modified with the addition of Command Star & wreath): is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary B Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks for the numerous comments/responses. Gary B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted April 5, 2017 Share #14 Posted April 5, 2017 In regards to Tomcatter-- There are some "general" rule of thumbs about post 1919 and pre 1941 pilot wings. 1) the early wings are closer to being exactly 3 inches long, while the later wings are closer to 3.2 or so inches (I forget the exact size but they are a tad longer). 2) the pins are heavier and the catch is typically a "drop in" style, or "c" type rather than the "catch under" catch of the newer wings. 3) as stated above, the area between the little vertical bars tends to be smooth in earlier wings, and have very small lines in the newer wings 4) the star tends to be smaller in the earlier wings compared to newer wings. Pelican beak wing patterns are a WWII pattern. The Adams design overlaps considerably with the pelican beak wings from WWII to KW. These are just broad rules of thumb and there are many many exemptions, variations and modifications to these "rules" The NS Meyer command pilot wing is a variation using their earlier pattern and adding the command pilot star and wreath. As pointed out, the command pilot wing wasn't authorized until 1941, so it was more than likely a WWII or even KW-made version. IMHO, the eally early pre-WWII NS Meyer wings tend to be made of silver plated brass, rather than sterling silver. But again, I suspect that is a rule with many excemtions as well. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcatter Posted April 6, 2017 Share #15 Posted April 6, 2017 Thank you Patrick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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