Newly promoted sergeant of the Armor Center with corporal stripes still showing on the dress greens in his locker.
Post your Post 1958 Corporal Stripes in Use Photos
Posted 18 May 2017 - 08:05 PM
A Corporal of the 5th Army, a Drill Corporal at Fort Leonard Wood Missouri no doubt as we're seeing that This Will Defend pocket patch. M65 Field Jacket circa 1966 to say 68, name tape that's missing, either White or Subdued.
(Jacket was up on E Bay a ways back, and has long been sold)
Posted 20 May 2017 - 07:59 PM
Up to 1958 the Army had Corporals. Few soldiers were promoted past PFC and a Corporal was the first level in the NCO chain. About 1956-57 the Specialist grades were created. Soldiers would be promoted from E-1 to E-2 at four months and to PFC E-3 at 6 months (providing there were no negative personnel actions involving the soldier). At that time there were no chevrons for E-1 and E-2 and the PFC wore one chevron. In 1958 the grade structure changed somewhat and soldiers were generally promoted to E-4 (or Specialist 4) at 12 months. Less if the promotion was for merit or for being an honor grad of AIT. Almost ALL MOSs had specialists in their structure. Corporal was reserved for soldiers who had completed NCO courses or were utilized in a leadership role. In 1968 the Army rank was restructured again and the Current PFC chevron, one chevron and one rocker, was created for the grade of E-3 and rank of PFC. The old PFC chevron (one chevron) was given to Private E-2.
These changes in part were designed to improve morale by giving deserving soldiers more pay. It was never intended that the Spec-4 would ever serve as an NCO. (In fact the original plan was that all Specialists regardless of grade would be subordinate to a Corporal.)In some cases an E-4 who temporarily filled an NCO position would be considered and acting Corporal or Sergeant and wear the rank of the NCO. Acting Corporals and Sergeants were to revert back to Specialist 4 when no longer filling an NCO position or when transferring to another unit.
So, to answer your question a soldier wearing corporal chevrons was a rare sight.
I was a Corporal in 1985 in a Infantry company (and I wasnt alone). I wore them for 4 months, then was made Acting Jack and wore Sgt but got paid E4 for another 4 months
Posted 21 May 2017 - 08:50 AM
As per Linedoggie's experience as well as mine, got me thinking about when hardstripe E-4 Corporals made a come back, as mentioned I knew some in the CAV, and the MANCHU's and that was from the late Spring of 1980 to late 1982. So I'm guessing sometime in the 70s, but when, and was it limited only to Infantry TO&E units?
Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:04 AM
2nd Squadron 17th Cavalry 101st Airborne Division - 1979. By the way, note the airborne cap patch and infantry shoulder cord and branch insignia. He was an infantry squad leader in D Troop.
Edited by seanmc1114, 22 May 2017 - 05:07 AM.
Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:46 AM
Two Infantry Corporals, two Sergeants and a Specialist of the 10th Mountain Division - mid 1980s.
Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:37 AM
Great ones Sean. On That one from the 101's D Troop 2/17 Cav in 79, D Troop was the ground reconnaissance Troop of the squadron, the rest of them were Air Cavalry Troops (11B's in the Air Cav Troops will be your Aero Rifle Platoons or as it was also know, The Blue Platoons), so I gather, the 11B contingent were either jeep borne, or maybe M113, not sure, the Troop would definitely have a lot of 19D Cavalry Scouts in it (The MOS change very recently at the time from the 50s-60s 11D), maybe there was a mix of both MOS's in the same Platoon?
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