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#51 dustin

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 01:15 PM

you know what else I just picked up on..is the lyanard going from his life vest to the parachute is the lyanard for the one man parachute raft

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 02:30 PM

this is a good vest example, first this is the rarist manufacture of life vests REPUBLIC, you can distinguish these vests commonly by the oral inflation tubes they are a bit different mainly fatter.Second this vest was procured under TC whichis the Transportation Corps. These vests are generaly void of any TO updates and lack inspection stamps as most of these vests were supplied to civilian airlines under contract to deliver and transport troops and supplies across the united states and overseas.TC contracted vests are not GI issue but there are exceptions I have seen several that have the AAC,inspection marks and dates on them but very few.Bottom linbe these vests are not GI but contracted through the government for civilian use.

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 04:08 PM

Dustin,

Haven't been on line here for a few days. Reference the photo of the two pilots, I find it interesting that the one wearing the B-3 is also wearing a parachute with a straight-across chest piece and webbing with a black tracer - more associated with the AAF than the USN. (Both did use them, I believe.) The fellow wearing the Mk-1 is wearing the Irvin-style harness with the "V" chest straps and plain webbing - more associated with the Navy.

On the other hand, you say they are Marine fliers and I have read that the Marines did make more use of Army equipment than the Navy did.

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 04:10 PM

Oh yeah, they are definitely Jars! I just noticed the handmade stripes on the one fellow's flight suit.

It occurred to me to go back and look at the photo more closely on the chance that the fellow on the left was AAF getting a photo with a Marine buddy. Not with that flight helmet, however!

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Posted 17 March 2007 - 06:41 PM

Tom,the man with X or V chest strap is wearing the Class S type seat parachute USN as you can tell by the rip cord under left arm-pit.The other man is wearing is most likely wearing the AN-6510 seat type parchute Army-Navy standard again note the rip cord under left arm-pit.Attched is a photo of the USN type seat

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 05:32 AM

Tom,the man with X or V chest strap is wearing the Class S type seat parachute USN as you can tell by the rip cord under left arm-pit.The other man is wearing is most likely wearing the AN-6510 seat type parchute Army-Navy standard again note the rip cord under left arm-pit.Attched is a photo of the USN type seat


Yes, that style harness was developed by Leslie Irvin in the 1920's. I believe. One of my treasures is a commercial Irvin S-1 seatpack. It is probably later (1930's-1940's) but looks like it was made yesterday. It once belonged to the fellow at Goodyear who developed the Inflata-Plane in the early 1950's. Poynter shows a photo of Irvin wearing an S-1 in 1925.

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 05:36 AM

Getting back to the photo of the two Marines, one wearing a B-3. While in the "library" this morning I was going through Jeff Warner's book and found this photo. He advises it is Guadalcanal area, August 1942.

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 05:43 AM

another good photo with B-3 Vest with Joe Foss... I think life vest is USAAF...

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 05:48 AM

about the photo from Dustin post 46 with two marines aviators is from June 1944 Majuro Atoll from left to right John McEniry and gunner Ted Sittle from VMSB-331

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 07:52 AM

Getting back to the photo of the two Marines, one wearing a B-3. While in the "library" this morning I was going through Jeff Warner's book and found this photo. He advises it is Guadalcanal area, August 1942.

Tom

Tom, it looks like the guy on the left has a shinner on left eye. He also wears the MK-1 googles.

jerry, thanks for clearing that up!

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 04:15 PM

I was going through my papers and came across another interesting modification for life vest a adapter to hold preserver light it reads as follows:
"the adapter is to cemented to the life jacket,under the port flap so as not to interfere with CO2 bottle"

does anybody havee a modification on any of thier vests that seem to fit this vague discription?

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 07:26 PM

Four pages on life vests.

We have too darned much time on our hands!

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 07:55 PM

Four pages on life vests.

We have too darned much time on our hands!

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hobbies are for the spare time,I guess my hobby is 50-50
There has been alot of views but not much response.I hope someone got something out of it! :D

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:50 PM

a lot of MK-1 life vest and some B-3...

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 03:14 PM

good pictures jerry! in the second picture I would almost think those are nylon flight helmets they are wearing due to the dark color.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:50 PM

I thought I would post some life preserver FAKES.These are the only ones I know of.
These are produce by What Price Glory and are clearly marked with thier marking WPG.Thier B-3 is a close resemblence to the real thing but probably would not fool most.
The other vest they make is the USN MK-1 vest.This vest is a very good copy judgeing by the photographs and probably could fool some but it is marked W.P.G. as manufacturer which as we all like by reproducers is to have a marking of such to determine real over fake but with the right ageing and rubbing of the ink markings this vest might get you! this is the second generation MK-1 fake by WPG the other one they had was a light grey material and not put together very well.

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Posted 31 March 2007 - 05:01 PM

I thought I would post some life preserver FAKES.These are the only ones I know of.
These are produce by What Price Glory and are clearly marked with their marking WPG.their B-3 is a close resemblance to the real thing but probably would not fool most.
The other vest they make is the USN MK-1 vest.This vest is a very good copy judging by the photographs and probably could fool some but it is marked W.P.G. as manufacturer which as we all like by reproducers is to have a marking of such to determine real over fake but with the right ageing and rubbing of the ink markings this vest might get you! this is the second generation MK-1 fake by WPG the other one they had was a light grey material and not put together very well.


Dustin,

I just noticed another way to spot one of Jerry's repro Mk1 vests. On a real Mk1, one CO2 cylinder inflates the center of the vest and the other the outer flaps. Their positions on the vest are asymmetrical. On Jerry's repop, both cartridges are mounted symmetrically and, if they were real, would only inflate the center. Extra insurance that would prevent someone from using his vest as the basis of a counterfeit. Bravo Jerry!

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 11:50 AM

Hello. here is good photo of WW2 shark chaser... photo is from www.

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 05:49 AM

Hi

May 1942, the USMC airman and minty USN Mk I vest.

BTW --> what is correct terminology: Mk 1 or Mk I?

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:47 AM

There was a nice picture of the lights to pin to the vest, but this one in my collection still has the original box with it. Thought you might be interested in the official designation of the light.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:54 PM

hey Bob, not to get too technical on ya but the official nomenclature is LIGHT,ATTACHABLE but close enough the government likes to read back words.
more than likely that was BMG's wasy of listing the light.
Packaging was left more to the contractors unless otherwise specified in the specifications given to them

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 11:36 AM

Interesting posts. Are these jackets easy to clean up as i have seen some real grubby ones on ebay ie water stains. I was wondering if they would clean up a bit. What are the things to look out for when buying these jackets and what things perish.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:53 AM

Does anybody have pictures of the proper accessories that went with the B5 life preserver..

such as ...Shark Repellant....Light Assy...Dye Marker Pkg. Thank you.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:45 AM

To my (limited) knowledge, there are no "proper" accessories to any life vest until the advent of the USN Mk II. One wore what accessories they either personally wanted or as ordered by higher-ups in their unit. From what photos I have seen, AAF guys carried little extra, maybe a dye packet. USN guys might be seen to have multiple dye packets, shark repellent, signal light and whistle. Then again, most photos of AAF guys are in Europe where they were only over the Channel for a relatively short period. USN/USMC fliers were over huge tracts of Pacific Ocean.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 04:24 PM

Thank you for info...so lets approach this from a different angle. Does anybody have any pictures...info...spec. on accessories that were used on life preservers in WW2. From what I have seen so far...there is some EXCELLENT pictures and great detail.


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