Pops369 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 15, 2017 Check out this late model Camillus that sold for over $600. eBay #172470517873 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 15, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted January 15, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 15, 2017 oh yeh--- the seller is laughing all the way to the bank in his ride alright. a very common maker worth 150-- 225.00 in that shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops369 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted January 15, 2017 More like $50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 15, 2017 Ya,that's a repo. Nice for 50-75 bucks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 15, 2017 I used to be a excited "Green" collector too. It hurts to even see stuff like this. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted January 15, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 15, 2017 As I recall Camillus was producing these in the 90s. Besides the lack of the dark parkerizing on WW2 production models, this one has a different shaped false edge, and the handle of reddish leather looks a little buffed out. Wasn't the original guards slightly bent? Believe these ran about $40 new in the 90s. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops369 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted January 15, 2017 Markings on the ricasso are different also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 15, 2017 The u in usmc is too thin. The false edge is too short,and the guard is straight. All bad news. Poor guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops369 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted January 15, 2017 It looks like three guys were in it for the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 15, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 15, 2017 Ya,that's a repo. Nice for 50-75 bucks though. Yep...Fairly modern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #12 Posted January 15, 2017 I didn't look at the seller but maybe he thought it was period ? It's funny how when I put a REAL knife on eBay I get the minimum value. I just sold a mint,blade marked M-3 and got 275.00 I guess I could have got a grand from these guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 15, 2017 Share #13 Posted January 15, 2017 I didn't look at the seller but maybe he thought it was period ? It's funny how when I put a REAL knife on eBay I get the minimum value. I just sold a mint,blade marked M-3 and got 275.00 I guess I could have got a grand from these guys? That seems to be ebay and then wait and see the USMC marked knives now that show up at malls and shows with all be priced at $599.00 plus because "thats what they go for on ebay"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #14 Posted January 15, 2017 I just saw one that high a moment ago. This time of year they can go high though. Last year I had a lot of trouble buying at a good price in Jan.- Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 15, 2017 Share #15 Posted January 15, 2017 Yes with tax money coming back some will have money to burn this time of year. There are models that will bring that price and more at times...Early first patterns with the red/black/red spacers in betterto top condition,the Robeson USMC marked models with upper condition (saw a mint one in Tulsa once priced at $3800.not sure it ever sold at that price).I have also seen knives at shows sit unsold for a third of the price some bring on line and are better condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellman825 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #16 Posted January 15, 2017 Got couple but they did not come from eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted January 15, 2017 Share #17 Posted January 15, 2017 That's why when someone registers here just to ask us what their knife is worth so they can put it on eBay I now say very little beyond if it's real or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted January 15, 2017 Share #18 Posted January 15, 2017 That's why when someone registers here just to ask us what their knife is worth so they can put it on eBay I now say very little beyond if it's real or not. Very true and that goes beyond knives too.If they are doing ebay its pretty easy to search sold items.At times I think that its posted here just to market the item or get milage for the auction for the most part. Price is subjective on collectibles in general and not like buying a vehicle or something with a list price.Some people will pay more some less some view value differently.A wing or a Patch guy dont typically see the value of a V42 compared to a nice WW1 Dallas Aviators wing that attributed.It all in what you like and if we liked the same stuff it wouldnt be fun Like firearms.People quoate auctions or the blue book but how many times do we see something listed at 'book price" or ebay price on a forum and it doesnt sell or take a rifle to a show.If these prices are what the items sell for at auctions every day the tables at shows should be empty.They all have the book but wont pay near close to the price listed in the catagory condition wise but if its for sale on the table its priced at or above the condition catagory its listed at.I know the gun dealer/seller has to make his margins and its a living.Auctions can and are very unpredictible.Just like the one that started this post.Im guessing if the two high bidders going after this knife saw it on a table at a show for $200 they would walk by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted January 15, 2017 Share #19 Posted January 15, 2017 Absolutely right Ron. See it a fair bit in the "what's it worth?" section. A lot of responses akin to "well, I'm no expert, but I saw one for sale once for $(crazy price)". I hate to sound like a broken record, but if we'd all respond to those posts with the price WE would pay, I think the values would be a lot more reflective of market. This happens with WWII firearms consistently. Somebody will respond with the "I'm no expert" disclaimer, and then say $2000. Well, it's a refinished example, and worth $500-$600 tops. But the owner heard $2000, which naturally most folks would prefer. So now what? They got a range of $600-$2000. All in all, people are certainly entitled to their opinions. That said, understand when folks come here asking for opinions, they expect we know what we're talking about. If somebody is asking for a value on a Civil War sabre, I just observe, as I don't know the first thing about them. I know enough to know originality and condition are pretty universal variables in determining value, which means there's likely a broad range. This is likely aggravated further by rarity of maker, etc. So, what am I adding to the conversation to say, "I was just in a military shop in Gettysburg, and saw one of these for $2000"? I dunno, if it doesn't scare the cows, who cares? Just trying not to add to the swirling value carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa Posted January 15, 2017 Share #20 Posted January 15, 2017 et me re-quote my above thread------------- if it was a real ww2 production in that condition scabbard and knife 150-225.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sactroop Posted January 17, 2017 Share #21 Posted January 17, 2017 I think it's worth bringing up again that there are at least a few, (I've seen at least three examples), of the 90's-06 U.S.M.C. Camillus model 5685 knife that has the longer sweep in the swage of the blade. With one of those you really have to compare the lettering on the blade to separate it from the WW2 version of the knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRE66 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #22 Posted January 18, 2017 Another visual difference is the width of the blade stock. Camillus went to a wider blade on the US and New York marked blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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