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ID'd D-Day Normandy US Navy Officer's 1911 Colt Pistol & Belt Rig

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#26 Screamingeagles101

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:05 AM

Has this grouping been sold?
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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:29 PM

No, it hasn't been sold or offered, but it's time to move it on to another collector. Ed



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:23 PM

I would be interested in bidding or buying..please let us know when listed.  

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

Mike,

 

These will be offered as a direct sale...The helmet by itself and the pistol set separately.

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:56 PM

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:11 PM

Very nice Ed, bubba and I need to take a trip to NC. Regards

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 04:30 PM

Pretty poor regard for the history of these items IMO. All the items belong to one guy and have been together for over 70 years, only to be split at the end, in the pursuit of profit I can only assume. I just don't understand how groups like this can be split. I truly hope there's a serious buyer out there who can keep these items together.

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 05:29 PM

Pretty poor regard for the history of these items IMO. All the items belong to one guy and have been together for over 70 years, only to be split at the end, in the pursuit of profit I can only assume. I just don't understand how groups like this can be split. I truly hope there's a serious buyer out there who can keep these items together.

Whoa there, Buckeroo. Get off your high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself. Your opinion is neither well thought out nor is it objective. In fact, your assumption is naive in the extreme and fails to consider the many circumstances that surround owners and their artifacts eventual disposition. Anyone who buys, sells, trades, hoards or gives artifacts away legally has the right to do with the objects as they please. Being judgemental and impugning other collectors' practices is nothing more than a failure to consider all sides of the situation. In a perfect world all groupings would remain intact and kept together forever. This is not that world.
 



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Posted 15 September 2017 - 07:51 PM

Whoa there, Buckeroo. Get off your high horse before you fall off and hurt yourself. Your opinion is neither well thought out nor is it objective. In fact, your assumption is naive in the extreme and fails to consider the many circumstances that surround owners and their artifacts eventual disposition. Anyone who buys, sells, trades, hoards or gives artifacts away legally has the right to do with the objects as they please. Being judgemental and impugning other collectors' practices is nothing more than a failure to consider all sides of the situation. In a perfect world all groupings would remain intact and kept together forever. This is not that world.
 


No high horse here buddy, Just an honest observation. The truth is that the eventual disposition of these items should be parallel to how they arrived to their current owner, not eventually split up to make a buck. Anyone who is in this hobby for the right reasons would never split up such a grouping. Now I do understand that you run a business, but as a historian first and collector second, it should be fairly obvious that the history of this group staying together should far outweigh the dollar value. To say that I am impugning your collecting practices is a stretch. It is extremely evident that you are splitting this up for reasons other than the history. It's a shame because that does nothing for preservation.

And in regards to your perfect world comment, those who truly cared about the history of the group would do what they could to not separate the items, perfect circumstances or not. As recently seen in the helmet collecting community, the almighty dollar seems to outweigh common logic, morals, and history in general that we try so hard to preserve.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 01:51 AM

It's really a fickle bedfellow, as they say. On one hand, if there was no applied value to these artifacts of history, dealers wouldn't post ads, consign pickers, or scout auctions, estate sales, and swap meets in search of them. The result would be far less of these items would surface, and instead end up the trash - as much of it sadly does. The consequence, however, is that these items become subject to the basic rules of free market trade. Specifically, sellers are going to position their items for maximum profit - which is their right, absent how anyone else may feel about it. In an example like we have at-hand, if this group wasn't valuable, we maybe would have never seen it. The same principle that likely brought it to light, dictates that it's generally worth more parted out. We as collectors encourage this behavior, so I don't think we can conveniently distance ourselves from it. We are the buyers, and one half of the commerce equation. We're in this together.

No high horse here buddy, Just an honest observation. The truth is that the eventual disposition of these items should be parallel to how they arrived to their current owner, not eventually split up to make a buck. Anyone who is in this hobby for the right reasons would never split up such a grouping. Now I do understand that you run a business, but as a historian first and collector second, it should be fairly obvious that the history of this group staying together should far outweigh the dollar value. To say that I am impugning your collecting practices is a stretch. It is extremely evident that you are splitting this up for reasons other than the history. It's a shame because that does nothing for preservation.

And in regards to your perfect world comment, those who truly cared about the history of the group would do what they could to not separate the items, perfect circumstances or not. As recently seen in the helmet collecting community, the almighty dollar seems to outweigh common logic, morals, and history in general that we try so hard to preserve.




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