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Started by Fratlanta , Nov 24 2016 09:28 AM

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#1 Fratlanta

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:28 AM

this grouping is my most amazing find so far.

Went to an estate sale recently where I first found four swords on a bed and  a dog tag in a jewelery box. Based on that, I assumed they must be some uniforms somewhere and started to dig. Finally, I found hidden in tin bucket in the basement what I was looking for: a Ike jacket with a tank destroyer pin, bars, medals and 1st army tank destroyer patches, honorable discharge documents, garrison hat, another jacket, several shirts with and without patches, several pants and long johns. Story does not end here because, I went back upstairs and found on a shelve a pair of German binoculars..

Once I got home, I realized that one of these sword was french (model 1862?), two were ww2 germans (easy to date if you look carefully, :) ) and the last one was also german (even though it looked older (WW1?)). Based on the marking on the box, I also realized the binoculars are clearly germans .

 

couple of questions though:

- Can I assume that he brought these sabers and binoculars as a souvenir from his "trip" to europe?

- are these long johns issued clothes?

 

 

Finally, I am no swords expert so any comments about them will be appreciated.

 

 

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#2 Fratlanta

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:30 AM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:32 AM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:33 AM

WOW! Congrats on this find. How come I never find anything this good at an estate sale.

 

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:34 AM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:35 AM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:37 AM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:47 AM

Killer group! Any idea what Tank Destroyer unit he was with? Also looks like your guy must have started out in the MP's because of that 1st Army patch with the MP branch colors. Just a great group with some nice bringbacks.



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:50 AM

Fantastic Grouping! Tank Destroyer stuff is hard to come by.

 

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:59 AM

I think you will find that you did considerably better than you might believe.  The three sabers with black scabbard are Third Reich era.  In the three, you are probably looking at approximately $800.  The binoculars are complete, and much in demand--another $150. - $200.  The TD grouping is certainly an added bonus to your purchase.  My values on TR items are probably a bit low as I've been out of this area for the past 15 years.



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:32 AM

Killer group! Any idea what Tank Destroyer unit he was with? Also looks like your guy must have started out in the MP's because of that 1st Army patch with the MP branch colors. Just a great group with some nice bringbacks.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 12:00 PM

Three of the swords are TR Heer officer swords; 2 X "lion head" and 1 X "dove head". The nickel one is a TR Heer NCO sword. There are different patterns of officer sword, and some are far more valuable than others. I think the swords are probably around $1K total unless one is a desirable pattern. The binos are a super example and very desirable in that condition and with the bakelite case. My guess would be more like $500 for them...


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#13 Fratlanta

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 12:48 PM

Three of the swords are TR Heer officer swords; 2 X "lion head" and 1 X "dove head". The nickel one is a TR Heer NCO sword. There are different patterns of officer sword, and some are far more valuable than others. I think the swords are probably around $1K total unless one is a desirable pattern. The binos are a super example and very desirable in that condition and with the bakelite case. My guess would be more like $500 for them...


because of the markings on the nickel sword, i am confident it is french and not german

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 01:15 PM

Mark: FBD

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 02:39 PM

Killer group.Whats the name and number on the tag? And as already stated, 1st Army is for Military Police.



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 04:08 PM

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 04:10 PM

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#18 katieony

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 04:12 PM

A really nice group...thanks for posting!



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 05:34 PM

Great stuff



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 10:21 PM

Wow very impressive!!

Congratulation on the find and thanks for sharing

 

Regards

 

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 11:18 PM

Amazing.

I love it, especially since it is identified.

 

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#22 Fratlanta

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:22 PM

thanks for all your comments

In summary, the 4 swords are worth about $1ooo and the binoculars about $500.

what about the rest then ?



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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:10 AM

Group its super! Sent you a message regarding the binoculars.

Thanks!



#24 Fratlanta

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 08:11 AM

Thanks guys for all the personal emails but this group is not for sale. I am just trying to get an idea of it's value since I've never had anything like this in hands



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Posted 02 December 2016 - 01:33 PM

Great Find--- I really like the swords




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