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#1 NorBn

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:04 AM

Can anyone help me with these? I guess they belong to the USMC, but that's all I have been able to figure out.

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#2 Bob Hudson

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:59 AM

Those are for members of the Marine Corps Band - I think they stopped using those in 1944.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 06:12 AM

Thanks a lot, I have been wondering about these for a long time.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 06:42 AM

Those chevrons are actually current issue variety: MCO P1020.34F; MARINE CORPS UNIFORM REGULATIONS; CHAPTER 6: MUSICAL UNITS:

6103. INSIGNIA
1. Officers of the Marine Band will wear appropriate insignia prescribed in paragraph 4005, except that on the full dress coat, embroidered insignia of grade will be attached to the shoulder knots.

2. Insignia for Marine Band musicians will contain the musical lyre (See fig. 6-1). Insignia will be worn in the same manner prescribed for equivalent enlisted grade insignia in chapter 4. On special full dress coats or jackets, branch of service insignia, grade insignia, and service stripes will not be worn. Musicians will not wear grade insignia or service stripes on full dress coats or jackets; however, drum majors, the operations chief and assistant operations chief will wear grade insignia. Insignia of grade will be worn on the blue all-weather coat in the same manner as worn on the standard gray all-weather coat. Enlisted musicians will wear the black metal/plastic grade insignia.

Your chevrons are (from left to right) Master Sargent; center top: Gunnery Sergeant (female chevron); center bottom: Staff Sergeant
and far right: Gunnery Sergent.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:08 AM

Thanks again for the information

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:29 PM

Here are some more USMC Band chevrons

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:33 PM

Pictures say more than thousend words

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:40 PM

Some more pictures

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:42 PM

From USMC regulation

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:47 PM

Drum Sergeant Major
with "bursting bomb" in his chevron,
not the lyra.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 01:50 PM

Here are my sets of Band Chevrons which are still works in progress:
First, Male:
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 01:50 PM

And Female:
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:19 PM

Few interesting points:  

Some chevrons have two stringed lyres, others have four.  The four-string lyres look a little better embroidered and have fuller curves at the heads.  I suspect that they were later issue.

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Edited by SgtMaddoxUSMC, 16 February 2016 - 02:23 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:26 PM

Next point of interest is a variation in lyre size and color. In the two chevrons below (as in the image from my first post) you can see a difference in the size of the lyre (full-sized 4-string on the Cpl but smaller 2-string ones on the GySgt as well as the SSgt and E-8) and also the color of the green thread is different (more noticeable in the first image - the GySgt is a lighter hue than the others).
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:29 PM

There is also shade variation on the green on red chevrons, with the SSgt, E-8 and E-9 chevrons being a lighter shade (maybe no-so-coincidentally those are all the two-string lyres and the darker green chevrons are all four-string).
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:33 PM

The only interesting variation with the female chevrons is the green on gray (or light blue as some have called it... looks gray to me).  I believe these were for use with an earlier WM uniform, maybe in the 1960's or 1970's.  Here it is next to a standard khaki issue.  Also another point, all the female chevrons I have seen had the two-string lyres. 
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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:35 PM

I should also have some more interesting band chevrons arriving soon so I will update this thread once they are here.



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 10:19 PM

Erik

The USMC Band chevrons are my favorite chevrons especially the wide dress version.

Is there a way to find out if the picture in #10 is a official picture and why there is a "Gunner" device inside the chevrons ?

Michael

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 06:09 AM

It is an official photo, yes.  Sometimes they wear the band chevrons other times they wear the regular issue chevrons.  I think maybe the band chevrons are more used for The Commandants Own and The Presidents Own bands and perhaps the smaller post bands usually use the regular issue chevrons.  In photo #10, the  Marine is a Master Gunnery Sergeant and for whatever reason they have been ordered to use the regular chevron.  I think sometimes it just comes down to the particular event which will dictate specifically which uniform and chevrons to wear.



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:00 PM

As a long time chevron collector, I really appreciate getting to see all these USMC Band chevrons. I have a few, but they are not all that easy to come by.

Thanks to all you guys who shared these with us.



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:48 PM

Well Lee, I look forward to seeing some of your collection! (:



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 01:13 PM

@ Erik
I hope you could find some official information about the female version with the grey background. That is the first time I saw this version.

@ all
Here is a picture of a frame I have for many years. Now there is a package on the way from the States and after arrival I need the space for the new. I'm not a friend to put this USMC Band chevrons in a box and there they will be for the next years ( forgotten ). So they are available.

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 04:56 PM

The only interesting variation with the female chevrons is the green on gray (or light blue as some have called it... looks gray to me).  I believe these were for use with an earlier WM uniform, maybe in the 1960's or 1970's.  Here it is next to a standard khaki issue.  Also another point, all the female chevrons I have seen had the two-string lyres. 
attachicon.gifFemale.jpg
 

 

Could that have been worn with the summer seersucker uniform?



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 07:28 PM

I was wondering that, Bob, but I always thought the seersucker uniforms were worn with the spruce green on white chevrons.



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Posted 29 February 2016 - 03:39 PM

For anyone who did not see in the other thread, here are USMC band collar devices for SNCOs:
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