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Odd US Army Japan patch with Airborne tab

Started by Siamundo , Sep 03 2008 03:07 PM

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#1 Siamundo

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Posted 03 September 2008 - 03:07 PM

Hello all,

I picked up this patch last week and have mixed feelings about it and just wanted to ask what others might think. Both the tab and patch are fully embroidered on a thin piece of khaki cloth. The Mt. Fuji patch is quite a bit larger than the standard size usually found. It is about 2.75" across. The embroidery appears to be all cotton as the threads no not glow under a blacklight and a loose thread on the back burns like cotton and not polyester. Has anyone seen this example in this size before? Thanks!

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 05:54 AM

Def. an odd one for sure. I haven't seen one that large, either. Done right on the Khaki, and the color is darker than the usual background of that patch. Japanese made maybe? It looks a bit too small for a jacket patch, but too big to wear on a sleeve.......It's kinda neat tho.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 10:30 AM

Could somebody tell me: what unit wear the Far East Cmd patch with AIRBORNE tab? I have a similar standard FEC patch with attached black/light blue AIRBORNE tab too.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 12:59 PM

These may help:

Links:
http://www.globalsec.../army/usarj.htm

http://www.usarj.army.mil/

http://aboutfacts.net/War13.htm

http://en.wikipedia....ates_Army_Japan

http://www.usarpac.a...n_printable.htm

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 07:55 PM

Could somebody tell me: what unit wear the Far East Cmd patch with AIRBORNE tab? I have a similar standard FEC patch with attached black/light blue AIRBORNE tab too.

Lars


This combination was supposedly worn by the US Army Special Operations Detachment (8231st Army Unit) at Camp Drake, Japan, circa 1956.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 08:49 PM

Don't hate me for posting this, but I believe this is a currently made reproduction out of Vietnam.

While most of the fakes of this style are for units from the Vietnam War, they have also managed to branch out and make patches from other eras as well.

There have been a number of them show up on eBay looking like this, with sloppy trim and a lot of excess material.

And they use cotton as a base cloth, which of course will pass the burn test. While the base cloth is cotton, I think you will find that the thread used for embroidery is a shiny synthetic.

One thing I don't like is the space between the tab and the patch. The examples I have looked up have the tab riding right on top of the patch. The tab is also not centered properly over the patch.

The circular pattern of the patch is not well formed, and the image of Mt. Fuji is off center as well. The dark blue thread being used instead of a lighter shade is a common error with these patches.

The stitching pattern on the backside of the patch matches that seen on the fully embroidered Vietnamese made reproductions I have in my collection.

And the lettering for AIRBORNE is computer generated, another sign of the current crop of fakes.

Sorry, but the more I look at it, the less I like it.

Edited by gwb123, 05 September 2008 - 08:51 PM.


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Posted 06 September 2008 - 04:21 AM

Gil, if anyone would know about good or bad, then I'd have to say it would be you.

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 06:47 AM

Hello Gil,

Thank you for your opinion. You are probably correct and you did not hurt my feelings at all. I should have known better and as I stated originally I was really unsure at the time. But it did not cost too much and it was one of those situations where I had to decide right then and there since I was just passing through that area.


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