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#26 josesharontraders

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:01 AM

Hola Caballeros flytiger & Jumpin'Jack,

 

Buenos dias. 

 

You are very welcome.  I shall shrink and post a recently unboxed CBI CATF tiger patches and OSS CBI patches later in the weekend. Also, a collection of pictures of the Flying Tigers AVG back in America, but in the prime of their lives.  Three more gruelling work days until España shuts down for their Semana Santa.  So, will drive to Portugal and post from there.

 

Again, you are very welcome, gentlemen--gran placer.

 

 

Saludos cordiales,

José

 



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 07:59 AM

Jose,

You have an amazing collection. Here is my tiny collection of AVG items that belonged to John and Emma Jean Petach.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:07 PM

Jose,

You have an amazing collection. Here is my tiny collection of AVG items that belonged to John and Emma Jean Petach.

Dick

Hola Dick,

 

Buenas noches from Spain.  Woo...I'm so pooped from work.  I know about your collection...sometime two years ago I successfully pulled away my fat finger from sending you a message about your fantastic find.

 

When this country shuts down this weekend for its Semana Santa, will be in next door Portugal so I could comment more on your wonderful set. I have contemplated on your AVG collection--and story behind it backed up by the super expert Señor Burkey--for a long time where or what category that should be viewed for a proper AVG collection.  And, pues/thus, will share my thoughts on Sunday or Monday, Señor.

 

Thank you for sharing this once again--Vaya! Vaya!!  (Big Wow!)

 

Goodnight, tio.

 

Saludos,

 

José


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:34 PM

Amazing group! It is just amazing! You have done well Sir and I salute you for keeping a group such as this together. I am a older dude now but in my "better"day's "I was lucky enough to fly as a pilot with the Flying Tiger Line and flew some long trans-pac flights with a number of former AVG guy's and also CNAC. They were all just plain good Captains and a pleasure to fly with. I once asked one of them over a cool one in Hong Kong if he had any spare items from the AVG day's and he said he had all his stuff in a trunk at home and one day he would sort it out and send me a few things. Never happened, maybe one two many cool one's talk, but he was a super person and I never asked again.This was the "Duke" and his nick name fit him to a T, great guy. 

Again, wonderful collection!

Hi flytiger,

 

Just a quick note on your flying tigers line buddy:  I think you should know that anyone having drinks in British Hong Kong's Suzie Wong district with all the hot chicks running around will be prone to forget their promises next day. I used to do liaison work as a young man in Hong Kong in the late 80s and know what you mean. In the late 60s, I remember seeing those Flying Tigers planes with my Dad unload from the nose their cargo before heading to NAS Cubi Point and back to Majuro Island thence to Honolulu and SFO.  You guys were basically the MAC flights of the 7th and 3rd fleets.

 

I have a thick book written by the British rep--a lady--who visited the AVGrs in Kunming and filed it as updating intelligence, of how wild the parties of the AVGrs used to be after dinner.  Anyway being more serious, anyone coming out of WW2 upfront, in their later years became the old school gentlemen in the way you commented of your Flying Tigers Line Captain friends.  Just the drinks made them forget their promise to send you some artefact--hahahah.

 

Anyway, just my sleepy comments, Señor.



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:35 AM

Amazing group! It is just amazing! You have done well Sir and I salute you for keeping a group such as this together. I am a older dude now but in my "better"day's "I was lucky enough to fly as a pilot with the Flying Tiger Line and flew some long trans-pac flights with a number of former AVG guy's and also CNAC. They were all just plain good Captains and a pleasure to fly with. I once asked one of them over a cool one in Hong Kong if he had any spare items from the AVG day's and he said he had all his stuff in a trunk at home and one day he would sort it out and send me a few things. Never happened, maybe one two many cool one's talk, but he was a super person and I never asked again.This was the "Duke" and his nick name fit him to a T, great guy. 

Again, wonderful collection!

Dear flytiger,

 

Some Flying Tiger Lines (Cargo) promotion pins.  I don't have many artefacts for this Cold War era airline, which shut when the U.S. scaled back from Europe and Asia following the Soviet Empire implosion.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:36 AM

Dear flytiger,

 

Some Flying Tiger Lines (Cargo) promotion pins.  I don't have many artefacts for this Cold War era airline, which shut when the U.S. scaled back from Europe and Asia following the Soviet Empire implosion.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:36 AM

The back:

Last:

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:44 AM

​Here are some Post and Transitional  AVG Flying Tigers Era cum CBI artefacts:

 

​Part 1--Very Rare US OSS China Patch, CBI Patches & Bullions. As more of an exonumist, I tend to concentrate on pins and insignia which have less worry in preserving than scrip, documents, clothing or patches.  But for the meagre set presented here, hope you enjoy:

 

Rare OSS Commando China Jump Patch worn by US & KMT infiltrators through Japanese Kwangtung Army-controlled areas:

 

w/ flash

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:45 AM

w/o flash:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:46 AM

Back of OSS patch w flash:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:47 AM

Back w/o flash:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:56 AM

Here are also some happy-looking CATF (China Air Task Force, hastily set up by the USAAF to supplant the outgoing AVG Flying Tigers in July 1942, which then was subsumed by the 23rd Fighter Group).  The USAAF 14th Air Force eventually incorporated CATF and 23rd Fighter Group.  

 

Tiger Facing Which Way?  Most tigers in patches, pins etc. facing dexter are generally 14th Air Force the tigers that were drawn, sewn, printed or metal press-printed for the transitional CATF and 23rd Fighter Group faced sinister.  Lookee at the happy faced tigers--facing sinister:

 

23rd fighter group arm patch of Capt. MacWilliams:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:57 AM

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:59 AM

There were more or less 40,000 personnel--pilots, ground crew, admin, armorers--who passed through the CBI (ChIna-Burma-India) War theatre.

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:03 AM

Lt. Col MacWilliams Massaro 23A1 23rd Fighter Group Distinctive Unit Insignia (DUI) is included in the set on page 1, as 23rd Tiger Pin #3:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:06 AM

For my fellow USMIlitaria members' convenience, 23rd Tiger Pin #3 from the left lower half is that of Lt. Col. MacWilliams':

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:08 AM

Back of his CBI patch:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:09 AM

Front CBI shoulder patch:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:10 AM

Here is a rare full size Tiger breast and/or back patch for the CATF-23rd Fighter Group later cum 14th Airforce.  The happy colourful tiger is facing sinister:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:11 AM

The back:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:13 AM

Here's a relative sizing picture.  Sorry, I don't readily have American quarter coins yonder here in Southern Europe, so I used a 2 Euro€ coin:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:16 AM

Here's a yucky looking and badly preserved CBI Bullion patch an auction house threw in as part of a happy purchase-sale:

 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:18 AM

And, the back.  At least, we US Militaria experts can glean the type of sewing and fabricating techniques used in that era between India and Chinese area tailors, dress makers or sewers.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:42 AM

Good Morning Jose,
Thank you for posting all this new eye candy for us to feast upon.I never tire of seeing items from your most excellent collection.That OSS piece must be super rare.Incredible stuff,for sure!

 

Cheers,

PC
 



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:05 AM

Sí Senhor PC,

Will post some other stuff like avg bloodchits later as we're out touring Lisbon. Holy Week in Spain.

Boa tarde, as they say here, tío.

J


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