jw517 Posted February 11, 2016 Share #1 Posted February 11, 2016 Here's another scarce Utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Misfit 45 Posted February 12, 2016 Share #3 Posted February 12, 2016 Hey jw517! Could you show us, or just verify, which grip style your Utica M5 has? I can't quite seen it in the picture you posted. Please note the top grip style where it meets the bayonet lug slot. Thanks. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #4 Posted February 12, 2016 The top one. Are all three of those Utica!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted February 12, 2016 Share #5 Posted February 12, 2016 Thank you so much for the response. I've found that about half of the Utica M5s I've seen have what I call the type three grip. Very uncommon. The top M5 is a Utica, the middle is an Imperial, and the bottom is a J&D Tool Co. Thanks again. That's one more for the books. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted February 12, 2016 Thanks Marve. I had another I sold this year that was the same. I was freaking out thinking the middle one was a Utica too. Didn't think they had those grips then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted February 12, 2016 Share #7 Posted February 12, 2016 jw517, As I said, about half of the Utica M5s I have seen have the type three grips like yours. The rest of them have the common second type grip as on the middle M5 in the picture. I would suspect that the Utica M5 could have come with any one of the three grip types, however, I have not seen the early "fat" grips ( bottom M5 pic) on any Utica M5s. They may be out there though. Do you think you could post a picture of the grips so I could "steal" it for my records?...just a picture to show how the grips butt up against the slot. Thanks. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankerman Posted February 12, 2016 Share #8 Posted February 12, 2016 One of my UTICA m-5's has top grip. Other has middle grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted February 12, 2016 Here ya go Marv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted February 12, 2016 Pic2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted February 12, 2016 Share #11 Posted February 12, 2016 Looks like everyone has a UTICA M5 except me. Guess I'll have to make an effort to find one. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayonetman Posted February 12, 2016 Share #12 Posted February 12, 2016 Just to totally confuse the issue, all three of the Utica M5 bayonets that I have had (kept one, sold one, traded one) had the fat grips, which I have called the Type 1 since I have only found them on early M5s - Utica, Imperial and J&D Tool. What is being called the Type 3 in this thread I now call the Type 2A as again I have only found them on M5s and they have been unmarked inside other than mold numbers - in other words, they do not have the part numbers molded in which is the most common version and which I now call the Type 2B as they are simply a Type 2A with the spacing around the checkering being moved away from the metal. Following are the types as I currently define them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #13 Posted February 12, 2016 I'm a bit uneducated on the m-5 grip chronology. Maybe someone could edeficate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misfit 45 Posted February 13, 2016 Share #14 Posted February 13, 2016 Heretofore, M5/M5A1 grips were simply referred to as "Early" grips (the fat ones) and Late grips (the most common grips). It seems that at this time, the grips that are found on some of these Utica M5s are now being recognized as a legitimate grip type used on production Utica M5 bayonets. I would agree entirely with bayonetman as to the chronology of these M5/M5A1 grips. The fat grips are the earliest, then the "Utica" grip, then the two common variations. I have to thank bayonetman once again, because I had never noticed the "Type 2a (narrow border variant) before. My only suggestion would be that since each of these four grips styles are unique in their own right, they should be categorized with their own designation in chronological order. Maybe Type 1,2,3,4; or Type 1,2,3,3a, since the two late versions are so similar. One thing I notice when I cruise ebay, is that at least 90% of the time when I see the "fat" grips, they are on J&D Tool Co. bayonets; not sure why that is. Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw517 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share #15 Posted February 13, 2016 Maybe the "husky" grip factory was near the j& d factory? I like m-5s. I have all of the makers,but not one M-5 A1! They are easy to buy in good condition and just a nice knife! They may be the unpopular kid on the block but some day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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