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#1 Croix de Guerre

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:32 PM

I was scanning a lot of photos today and thought you all might enjoy seeing a few different examples of pilots wearing their wings.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:33 PM

I was scanning a lot of photos today and thought you all might enjoy seeing a few different examples of pilots wearing their wings.

#1 Unknown pilot


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#3 Croix de Guerre

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:36 PM

Pilot #3

This image came with a dog tag to a Lt named Dorwart but I think it was a put together. This image has a Richmond, Virginia photographers imprint.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 12:50 PM

Very nice photos. Seeing these old photos makes we want a WWI wing for my collection even more... :love:

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 02:00 PM

a few of mine.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 03:30 PM

A super nice picture of USAAC airship pilot. I believe that only about 90 or so pilot rated these wings. Sadly, he isnt IDed...

One photo of him in the mid-20s and one in the late 30's I would guess.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 03:38 PM

Lt S A Sloan of the 268th Aerosquadron. This was in a great collection of WWI and post WWI photos.

The second photo is of Sloan and his observer and another pilot and his observer. I believe they got "cooties" and had to be deloused.

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#8 Croix de Guerre

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 04:50 PM

Man, those are sweet photos, esp the airship wings! Very, Very cool!

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:02 PM

Here's one from my photo post card collection:

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 05:23 PM

Fabulous pictures....where is that fainting smiley when you need one... :unsure:

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 06:27 PM

Not great detail on the wings, but I just got this as part of a group and had to show it! One of my Foggia pilots:


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:12 AM

Not great detail on the wings, but I just got this as part of a group and had to show it! One of my Foggia pilots:


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Oliver Stout
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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:17 AM

Wow... nice stuff.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 05:48 AM

Thanks CdG for the information. Here is a little post war info on Stout:

"December 1949. Indiana became the first state to name a chief of the newly authorized air section of its state National Guard headquarters staff with the appointment of Brig. Gen. Oliver H. Stout to that post."

The Stout family is fairly prominent in Indianapolis. Stout Field is named after his brother Richard Stout, another WWI aviator and was the Headquarter for Troop Carrier Command during WWII.

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:19 AM

Here is an unknown observer,,

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:26 AM

I've seen very early metal wings but the jewelers mark in the back was somewhere in Texas, where the signal corps air service started.

Hey! His folks started Stout Shoes in Indianapolis. The last time I was there his picture was still framed by the front door.

The kewl thing about stout shoes was that its about the oldest shoe store still around. Their stockroom was on a second floor, so they had old fashioned office equipment to get shoes from the stockroom. Baskets on a clothes line that shoot back and forth.

And it was next to Bazbeau pizza, which is also a something to do in indianapolis.

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Not great detail on the wings, but I just got this as part of a group and had to show it! One of my Foggia pilots:


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Posted 29 August 2008 - 10:42 AM

I REALLY like these WW1 wings, but have never actually priced them because I was scared too. What do these usually go for? And just for entertainment value, how much do the airship wings run around?

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Posted 29 August 2008 - 11:01 AM

Based on what I have been seeing on ebay. People can quibble about the range, but this is what I see around.

Bullion wings 600-1200$ depending on how "sure" people are they are legit. A recent bullion wing with a manufacturer's lable on the back went for around 1800$ IIRC. I think anything "good" is going to be around 800$ or more.

Dallas wings sell for about 1200-1700$ Some of the rarer variations may sell for more. Some very good fakes of these, so you need to know what you are doing.

Other types (e.g. Shreve, Eisenstad, Robbins, Gaunt, etc) of metal wings seem to go for 1500-2000, but again some of the rarer variations get significantly more.

Tiffany I have only seen them in the 3000-5000$ range, but I know a few people that got them cheaper than that.

It seems that I see that about 1-2 dozen good 100% legit WWI vintage wings come up on ebay each year, with a few rare others that sometimes show up and are mis-identified or mis-labled and get sold for cheaply. The vast majority on ebay are fakes or reproductions adn a few wings that can go either way.

Dealer sites that do offer wings, you may need to multiply the values cited above by 1.5 to 2 times. Sadly, a few of the dealers who offer WWI wings ALSO spend alot of time buying them off of ebay. Also, if a bidding war breaks out, or two people with sniping ware decide they want this, then I have seen some really stupid money being spent.

Funny thing, a few recent obvious fakes went for big money on ebay recently. So people are buying up stuff that they apparently have little knowledge about.

ONe last thing, I think airship wings could easily reach the 1000$+ mark BUT the problem there is that the fakes are so hard to tell from the originals. Certain patterns I wont even touch.

Patrick

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:01 AM

Croix, Some of these you've seen. But thought I'd throw a few up anyway. Nice Thread!

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:02 AM

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:03 AM

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:04 AM

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:04 AM

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Posted 30 August 2008 - 05:06 AM

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