jguy1986 Posted December 18, 2015 Share #1 Posted December 18, 2015 A few days ago I bought an Ike jacket that had a whole bunch of British-made insignia (shoulder patch, overseas bars, and possibly collar brass, too) but the late-war woven US-made T/4 chevrons on the sleeves. Lo an behold, once I brought the set home I found these chevrons on the accompanying shirt. A lot of early US-made embroidered chevrons get mistaken for theater-made examples, but I believe these to be the real thing with a very rough embroidery on black felt. Definitely some interesting chevrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted December 19, 2015 Share #2 Posted December 19, 2015 Certainly looks it jguy, it has none of the unmistakable qualities and details of a WWII U.S. made embroidered wool EM rank insignia. It looks by the edge that it has a muslin backing, is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jguy1986 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted December 19, 2015 It looks by the edge that it has a muslin backing, is that correct? Yes, a cotton backing to it. Unlike the Brit-made aircrew wings I have with a white backing, the muslin on these looks to have been dyed black. Maybe the backing was applied to the felt, the whole piece was dyed and the embroidery added afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted March 30, 2016 Share #4 Posted March 30, 2016 Not all English made Insignia had a thin cloth backing, most common is the sizing or glue back Here are a few without the thin cloth backing Back view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jguy1986 Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted March 30, 2016 That's good to know, GS. Thank you. What got my attention was how rough my chevrons look compared to those you posted. Interesting to note the differences in manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted March 31, 2016 Share #6 Posted March 31, 2016 That's good to know, GS. Thank you. What got my attention was how rough my chevrons look compared to those you posted. Interesting to note the differences in manufacture. When you say "Rough" do you mean 'coarse" like the Black wool is of a coarse type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jguy1986 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted March 31, 2016 I meant rough as in quality of embroidery. The chevrons on my shirt almost look sloppy, compared to the precision of the others shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted March 31, 2016 Share #8 Posted March 31, 2016 I meant rough as in quality of embroidery. The chevrons on my shirt almost look sloppy, compared to the precision of the others shown. Check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillock Posted April 7, 2016 Share #9 Posted April 7, 2016 Not all English made Insignia had a thin cloth backing, most common is the sizing or glue back Here are a few without the thin cloth backing IMG_1999.JPG Back view IMG_2000.JPG Hi Gunslinger First time Ive seen Brit made chevrons. Can you point out what makes these brit made? Is it the construction , thread stitching etc.. The reason I ask ,there were hundreds of official and unofficial companies in the states that were making a wide variety of chevrons during the war. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted April 7, 2016 Share #10 Posted April 7, 2016 The English made insignia i posted are made with silk embroidery on felt with a sizing on the back, some refer to the sizing as paste back or starch back. The English embroidery shown is completely different than the US produced insignia, additionally these were embroidered with Silk thread which was a common practice of the UK during WWII. I'll post a closeup showing the details this weekend when i have some free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted April 9, 2016 Share #11 Posted April 9, 2016 Hi Gunslinger First time Ive seen Brit made chevrons. Can you point out what makes these brit made? Is it the construction , thread stitching etc.. The reason I ask ,there were hundreds of official and unofficial companies in the states that were making a wide variety of chevrons during the war. Phill Here a image showing the detail of English embroidery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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