stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 7, 2015 Hi! Can anyone identify what type of leather flying helmet this young man is wearing? I was trying, but am too new! This photo was taken in 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtepak6 Posted August 7, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 7, 2015 Looks to be WWII USAAF/AAF Type A-8 cloth flight helmet. Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted August 7, 2015 Share #3 Posted August 7, 2015 That looks like an A-9 cloth helmet to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pararaftanr2 Posted August 7, 2015 Share #4 Posted August 7, 2015 Note the buckle on both sides for a chin cup, which is characteristic of the A-8 helmet. The A-9 had a chin strap sewn on the wearer's right side that was fastened by a single buckle on the wearer's left side. Both were made of olive drab gabardine fabric and were considered summer weight helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted August 7, 2015 Cloth!? Wow! I didn't really know they made these in cloth. OK. What would one of these cost? I might have to try saving up for one for my memory box of Uncle Harold. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted August 7, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 7, 2015 The A-8's are more expensive than the A-9s....you could find an A-9 pretty quickly and cheaply on EBAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will m. Posted August 7, 2015 Share #7 Posted August 7, 2015 A-8s were also used in early Airborne training (Test Platoons), this accounting for some of the inflation in price. At one time fairly plentiful, the Airborne collectors seems to have absorbed quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 7, 2015 So, when was the A-8 in use? I take it the A-9 replaced the A-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted August 7, 2015 Would this be one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARMY-AIR-CORPS-TYPE-A-8-SUMMER-FLYING-HELMET-MINT-/111737422948?hash=item1a0411c464 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted August 7, 2015 Share #10 Posted August 7, 2015 Would this be one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARMY-AIR-CORPS-TYPE-A-8-SUMMER-FLYING-HELMET-MINT-/111737422948?hash=item1a0411c464 The label reads Type A8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 7, 2015 Share #11 Posted August 7, 2015 your link looks to be a modified A-8, the cut outs by the chin strap, and the O2 mask hooks ...modded for the Oxygen mask I believe...for the A-9 or A-10 mask??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted August 7, 2015 They stated in their add that this is a 1942 flying helmet. I wasn't sure if it would have changed. Although, the Army probably changed numbers if they changed. OK. I just hae to know now . . . how can you tell it is modified? ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted August 7, 2015 I have a "Dragon Toys" GIJoe-type doll that I am going to dress like Uncle Harold. I want to make the flying suit and jacket, etc. I want to try making one of these helmets, so I am interested in what makes the one in the link modified. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebuddy Posted August 7, 2015 Share #14 Posted August 7, 2015 I have a "Dragon Toys" GIJoe-type doll that I am going to dress like Uncle Harold. I want to make the flying suit and jacket, etc. I want to try making one of these helmets, so I am interested in what makes the one in the link modified. Thanks! Welcome to the wonderful world of USAAF collecting !! It can be a bit of a minefield but by asking questions like the one above is exactly the right place to start LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 7, 2015 Share #15 Posted August 7, 2015 They stated in their add that this is a 1942 flying helmet. I wasn't sure if it would have changed. Although, the Army probably changed numbers if they changed. OK. I just hae to know now . . . how can you tell it is modified? ;o) by the cutouts above the chinstrap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northcoastaero Posted August 7, 2015 Share #16 Posted August 7, 2015 The goggles look to be the USAAC B-7 with two piece eye cushions and black elastic strap. The flight jacket would be the A-2. Also, it appears that he is wearing a silk scarf. Not sure about the flight suit. Maybe an A-4 type? Do you want all original clothing and gear or will quality reproduction items be alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #17 Posted August 7, 2015 OK. This gives me the best opportunity! Were silk scarves regulation issue? Or would it be a civvies thing he got? I was also going to ask about the goggles. As to clothing, I'm going to make my own, I think. A friend gave me a pair of bomber overalls that her Uncle wore during WWII. They are torn in areas, so I am going to use all the leather on several projects, mainly to make the flying suit and jacket for my doll. I thought it would be cool to use original WWII flying leather. The flying helmet . . . well, I think it is way too cool and I might need one of those for real. I've got an older ammo box that I am painting Uncle Harold's (he is the young man in the photo) squadron patch on and I am making it a memory box, of sorts. Photos, patches, insignia, etc. that he would have had. A flying helmet like he is wearing might be really cool to have! I never thought there might be a repro. The goggles look to be the USAAC B-7 with two piece eye cushions and black elastic strap. The flight jacket would be the A-2. Also, it appears that he is wearing a silk scarf. Not sure about the flight suit. Maybe an A-4 type? Do you want all original clothing and gear or will quality reproduction items be alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northcoastaero Posted August 7, 2015 Share #18 Posted August 7, 2015 Good luck with your project! Try the following sources for reproduction items: whatpriceglory.com for repro B-7 goggles and possibly flying hat. Also flight suit. garciaaviation.com for the repro silk scarf and possibly flying hat. uswings.com and planecrazyent.com for repro A-2 jackets. ebay.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #19 Posted August 7, 2015 So, would the silk scarves have had a logo on them? Were they Air Corps issue? I can't seem to find out online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted August 7, 2015 OK, Pros! Here is another one for you. This is one of the first young man's crewmates. What type of flying helmet is he wearing? Is this one leather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Signor Posted August 8, 2015 Share #21 Posted August 8, 2015 Looks to be Leather and also lined with fur like the jacket he's wearing , sorry I'm not a flight helmet guru , but you can tell it's leather for sure ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfixer Posted August 8, 2015 Share #22 Posted August 8, 2015 The goggles look to be the USAAC B6's and helmet looks to me to be a civilian leather helmet(?)...looks like this pic is of a AAC cadet, so the helmet could be civvie, as many civilian schools were contratced out to start cranking out aviators for the USAAC Jacket is the sheepskin B-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespicker Posted August 9, 2015 Share #23 Posted August 9, 2015 I was USAF 1973-1977. In Basic Training, we got like one afternoon off for a trip into San Antonio Texas. There were places all over the city that would take your photo for a small fee. This looks very much like one of those creatively staged pictures. I had one taken wearing a blue flight jacket with fur collar which I don't think was USAF issue in 73. The USAF official photo they sent to my hometown newspaper was far less flattering.... just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratasfan Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted August 10, 2015 OK. How about this young man? He was an aerial photographer on the plane with Uncle Harold. His flying helmet looks different than both. But his jacket looks to be the B-3, like the second photo I posted. Also, is that a camera he is holding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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