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#1 copdoc

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:21 PM

Can anone ID this ctg? My Dad gave it to me about 40 years ago and told me it was a flare. I just found it in my old room. I had forgotten about it.

It is ~1.625" dia and appears to be a flare ctg case that becomes the projectile. An early high/low system.(?) Look at the port holes. It also appears to be a front loading. There is a small fuse in the bottom to exspell a flare or other payload.

A friend said it might be for a "flashlight gun" flare pistol. Does anyone have a gun or a ctg that is not fired?

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 04:50 PM

What you have is a used M20 signal flare. It is launched, fins first, into the air by a launcher who's name I'd have to look up. They came in several colors. My unused one is green, and the used one was amber. The holes in the bottom surrounding the primer were where the propellant blast came out and launched the flare.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 04:51 PM

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#4 copdoc

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 06:54 PM

Thanks Robin
It did appear to be launched in that manner (front loading) but did not know about the fins. I am surprised it would go high enough to need the fins on the other end. If you find a pic of the launcher please post it or email me. Doc


Addendum Ground signal projector M1A1 dia 1.628". I do not remember Dad having one so he must have just picked up a fired one for a souviner. I have the 1947 edition of TM 9-290. It lists the ground burst M27 but does not have the M20 flare. The M27 does not have fins.

Thanks again Robin These things worry the heck out of me if I can't ID them.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 12:01 PM

when i was in un service in lebanon 1995 we used a small small mortar
that we called >lyran> hand hold with a smal bottom base
we used it for flares and lighting when in combat.
sorry i dont have pictures off it.
cheers ken

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 01:49 PM

when i was in un service in lebanon 1995 we used a small small mortar
that we called >lyran> hand hold with a smal bottom base
we used it for flares and lighting when in combat.
sorry i dont have pictures off it.
cheers ken

Interesting, there have been a lot of ground illumination devices over the years. If you find a pic please post it.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 02:36 PM

Here is a pic of the projector.
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