My mannequin displays
Posted 23 September 2014 - 11:37 PM
How was the Wheaton show? Have wanted to go but never works out.
Posted 24 September 2014 - 05:53 AM
Posted 24 September 2014 - 06:10 AM
It was a decent show, lots of good quality items and all the tables were full but of course some of it was priced high. But of course we all know prices become flexible when serious dealing. I had a good show as I bought the Krag and also sold three guns, Ray
A collector/dealer I know from. DESMOINES goes there.
Posted 05 December 2014 - 06:59 AM
It's the same length and configuration as the standard M1907 sling having two brass double hooks but it's stamped in twoplaces on each end, "Rock Island Arsenal" 1905.
I had it for a number of years and I remember when I bought it, the seller said it was an early sling dated 1907 but I only glanced at it taking his word and had put it on one of my early 1903's were it sat since buying it and only looked closer at it the other day and saw the actual date. Ray
Is it an experimental/trials sling, early made 07 sling or what? I can't find anything on it? The brass fasteners look to be earlier Krag/TD style having slight bevels on the sides and the pins ground flush. I seem to remember seeing another early sling dated 1905 but it had only one fastener. Possibly they were early 1903 RB rifle slings before they went to two fasteners or else they were later Krag slings.
Edited by rayg, 05 December 2014 - 07:01 AM.
Posted 05 December 2014 - 09:53 AM
Fantasic collection of uniforms and weapons Ray...Wow!! Love the M1 Carbines. Thanks for showing
Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:37 PM
As there are no obsolete slings with that same number and pattern of holes as this sling and even if you used the sections of older slings, like from the Krag/TD slings, why were'nt the same number and the pattern of holes as the specs call for in the1907 sling added? Because of the extra amount and the pattern of the holes and their location and the fact that the sling is shorter then the 1907 sling, and especially it has the Rock Island Arsenal and the date stamp twice on each end of the sling to indicate Arsenal approval instead of just once like normally stamped on slings. I feel all these factors add creditability that it is probably a Trials/prototype 1907 sling and intentionally designed/made the way it is.
Here's some photos to show the different pattern of the holes, Ray
Edited by rayg, 07 December 2014 - 04:48 PM.
Posted 09 December 2014 - 07:08 AM
Also the sling is about 2" shorter then the 07 sling as well as the extra holes, also the sling has a different more squared off cut on the end instead of a more rounded end cut. And then there's the double RI and date stamps on the sling whereas the 07 sling has only one stamp. So in light of these factors I feel it is a completely different pattern sling and is most likely a prototype/trials sling which was made by adding an additional claw fastener, the 1903 sling had only one fastener, and adding additional holes. Eventually the holes were reduced and the length increased slightly, and it became the 1907 pattern sling. Ray
Posted 20 May 2015 - 06:35 AM
Edited by rayg, 20 May 2015 - 06:40 AM.
Posted 22 August 2015 - 05:30 AM
Well Richard Turner, of Turner Saddlery, who makes excellent quality slings and other leather products. cleared up the question on the sling. He said it "is" one of the 1907 slings that the arsenal made up using sections of older 1903/Krag/ and Trapdoor slings. He explained that it is one of the first M1907 Slings made up from two M1905 Slings. What they did at Rock Island Arsenal was take the earlier slings and chop the best section, utilizing the existing holes. You have to keep in mind that saddlers at the various commands were also authorized to make these modifications, turning earlier slings into the new M1907, so there will be variations.
Edited by rayg, 22 August 2015 - 05:31 AM.
Posted 14 March 2016 - 08:07 AM
Posted 05 May 2016 - 01:49 PM
I feel sad to have had to dispose of those CW items but it was necessary in order to move to a smaller home.
However, couldn't resist in picking up one small item which was a Paratrooper rifle jump case. earlier a about half dozen pages back I had shown photos of one I picked up that was in an original box but the hook had been cut off. Sold it because I was not happy with it because of the missing hook. The new one is also in unused condt and dated 1944. Ray
Edited by rayg, 05 May 2016 - 02:02 PM.
Posted 10 September 2019 - 04:01 PM
I have been selling off the collection as I hit my 80th birthday...About 80% sold so far. Didn't want to leave the wife with trying to dispose of it,. There comes a time for everything!. Ray
Posted 10 September 2019 - 06:07 PM
Wow Ray its amazing how fast time fly's by it seems like you made this post yesterday, Happy 80th Bday I always enjoyed your posts my friend..
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