Raidercollector Posted March 27, 2015 Share #1 Posted March 27, 2015 Hi all, Now that I have this nice set of HBT's researched From help of forum members which I have had for many years ,Which I picked up in IL . They belonged to Sgt Miles Cliff H&S Co, 2nd Bn 25th Marines, 4th Marine Division. He participated in the Battles of Tinian,,Saipan and Iwo Jima. He was 38 years of age when he Joined. He was Born in Austria ,Hungry. He lived in 5820 Race Ave Chicago IL. I,m sure his House is still there. He was never wounded for being in all those campaigns . These sets are very hard to fine,A lot of marines wore them out. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ViewfinderGyrene Posted March 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted March 27, 2015 Very nice Nick! One amazing group after another! Something I've not quite understood. What were the duties of an H&S Co. in a combat theater? Keeping thing organized-to-whatever-degree-possible and where they should be [Authorization and Logistical matters?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidercollector Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted March 27, 2015 In identifying a specific headquarters unit, it is usually referred to by its abbreviation as H&S. While a line company is formed of three or four platoons, H&S is made up of the headquarters staff and headquarters support personnel of a battalion, MEU, regiment, MEB, division, or MEF. As these personnel do not fall inside one of the line companies of the battalion, regiment, or division, the H&S Unit is the unit to which they are administratively assigned. The typical personnel strength of an average H&S Company for a Marine infantry battalion is 270 personnel. Inside a battalion H&S, the headquarters staff will usually include the following key officers and primary staff officers: a battalion commander, usually a lieutenant colonel a battalion executive officer, usually a major an administration and personnel officer (S1), usually a captain an intelligence and counterintelligence officer (S2), usually a captain an operations and training officer (S3), usually a major a logistics officer (S4), usually a captain a communications and information officer (S6), usually a captain Depending on the unit, extra support officers will round out the staff, including one or two Navy Medical officer(s), Career Planner, Judge Advocate, and a Navy Chaplain (often collectively referred to as the "special staff"), as well as essential Navy and Marine Corps non-commissioned officers and enlisted support personnel in the occupational specialities of the executive staff sections (S1 through S4 and the S6), and a battalion sergeant major, who is principal advisor to the battalion commander on matters regarding enlisted personnel. Additionally, H&S will contain further personnel assigned to support and sustain the mission of the battalion headquarters, including maintenance and motor transport, field mess, and supply. H&S itself will be commanded by a company commander (usually a captain) who is supported by a company executive officer (usually a first lieutenant) and a company first sergeant. All personnel in H&S fall under the administrative command of the H&S company commander, but in practice, the primary and special staff officers report directly to the battalion commander, and while the battalion commander is administratively assigned to H&S, he or she is the H&S company commander's higher commander and thus the H&S company commander operationally answers directly to the battalion commander. The mission of the H&S company commander is to run the administrative and Marine training aspects of H&S, and to support the battalion primary staff by facilitating the environment in which they operate and in turn support the battalion commander in commanding the battalion. At the regimental and division level, H&S is similarly constituted of the regimental or division commander, his or her staff, and the support elements, but the ranks of the staff and support personnel are typically greater to reflect the greater level of responsibility at higher echelon units. However, the company commander of a regimental H&S is usually still a captain. A division H&S is usually a battalion in itself and is commanded by a lieutenant colonel. In keeping with the long standing practice of referring to company sized artillery units as "batteries" the headquarters company element of an artillery battalion or higher is referred as a Headquarters and Service Battery. Additionally, some high level headquarters elements for special units are not company sized and are referred to as "detachments;" as a result, these units are formally referred to as Headquarters and Service Detachments Hope this helps what they Did VFG. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewfinderGyrene Posted March 27, 2015 Share #6 Posted March 27, 2015 Yes very much, thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted March 27, 2015 Share #7 Posted March 27, 2015 Very nice set! I have doubts to whether or not it was worn in combat. It looks awful clean. HBTs tore and got destroyed VERY quickly on the sharp coral of the islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barickman Posted March 29, 2015 Share #8 Posted March 29, 2015 Nick, Very nice set and documentation. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sap630 Posted April 22, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 22, 2015 Interesting. My brother has the other two sets. I recall him buying them at a Hillside Ill. show perhaps in the early 80s. I don't recall if the dealer said he was keeping a set or if someone else purchased the 3rd set before my brother did. Regardless, there exists another two complete stencils sets for "Cliff". And yes it is the same guy. I will try to get some pictures posted for all to see although that may take some time. I do recall one of the pairs of pants having the rear slit pocket. Ed Hi all, Now that I have this nice set of HBT's researched From help of forum members which I have had for many years ,Which I picked up in IL . They belonged to Sgt Miles Cliff H&S Co, 2nd Bn 25th Marines, 4th Marine Division. He participated in the Battles of Tinian,,Saipan and Iwo Jima. He was 38 years of age when he Joined. He was Born in Austria ,Hungry. He lived in 5820 Race Ave Chicago IL. I,m sure his House is still there. He was never wounded for being in all those campaigns . These sets are very hard to fine,A lot of marines wore them out. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidercollector Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted April 23, 2015 Sap630 I would like to see the photos of the other 2 sets. I did buy my set at a different place,But it was in the 80's. and in IL. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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