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Hello everyone ,

I just got these with a bag of other insignia and just wanted to check if they are good .I looked in Wings of gold but did not see a vanguard set.These are 2 3/4 of an inch and have 13 berries on one side and 11 berries on the other and are riveted.Any opinions would be appreciated .

Thanks Dan

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Hi DAn,

 

They are legit. Now the question is when were they made. If you can take a closeup picture of the post we can get a better idea.

 

 

Gary

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Hi DAn,

 

They are legit. Now the question is when were they made. If you can take a closeup picture of the post we can get a better idea.

Gary

Hi Gary ,

Thanks here is a close up of the pin I'm always unclear about the pin back or clutch back as far as wings go I always try and get the pinbacks .

Dan

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As far as I know these wing were only authorized from 45-47.

 

John

John-

That's my understanding also. A Vanguard wing of that period would typically have a much different hallmark. Rather than all block letters, the word "Vanguard" would be in stylized script followed by the letters "NY" in block letter format. Also, every Vanguard wing of the 1940's period I've seen has been pinback (the Navy flight surgeon wing is the most commonly encountered Vanguard wing).

I have a clutchback USN/USMC paratrooper wing made by Vanguard that has the name in raised block letters with no "NY" following. I always assumed it to be 1960's period. I'm not sure, as I'd think they would have been using the V21 hallmark code by then.

I'm thinking this wing was made by Vanguard well after the wing was authorized for wear.

Kurt

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Didn't the Marine Corps use enlisted navigators on cargo aircraft back in the 50s and 60s? I read an article about this somewhere. This wing may be from this time period.

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I have a couple of Vanguard wings, and the hallmark is variable, including this style of just the name. I dont think that this wing has anything especially wrong with it one way or the other.

 

IMHO.

 

P

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John Cooper

Kurt - you bring up some interesting points but unless like Meyer they made restrikes I am leaning toward what patrick posted on this. Maybe you can post the wing you mention in a seperate thread.

 

@ Dan - do you think you can get some close ups of the front so show the details and if you can the top edge as well.

 

Thanks

John

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Kurt - you bring up some interesting points but unless like Meyer they made restrikes I am leaning toward what patrick posted on this. Maybe you can post the wing you mention in a seperate thread.

 

@ Dan - do you think you can get some close ups of the front so show the details and if you can the top edge as well.

 

Thanks

John

John Here are the photos of the top and front close up.

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The January - March 1989 issue of Trading Post has the article about Marine Aerial Navigators. It is about a sergeant who attended the navigation school at Cherry Point in 1959 and later served in VMR-252 on C-119s. The article shows a photo of the navigator wings, same design as the ones in the first post.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Aerial_Navigator_Badge

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There you have it! I met a USMC Sgt (E-5) last year that was a C-130 Aerial Navigator and he was wearing these wings. So the pair you have is legitimate and fairly current.

Semper Fi.....Bobgee

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Thanks for everyone's help and knowledge. It now has a place with all my other Navy wings I was hoping for a WW II pair put happy just the same.

Thanks Again

Dan

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