Summer uniform of a boss

[kammo-man]

 

Look at this one.

 

 

[ssggates]

I'm guessing Air National Guard with about 2 years of service!

[kammo-man]

 

This is the boss of all allied eto troops

[kammo-man]

 

At the American history museum

[automatic]

Nice!

[uniformcollector]

That's a great Eisenhower uniform! I saw it a few months ago. It's very rare to see Ike wearing that many awards.

[12A54]

If these were full size, his uniform would "MacArthurish".

[GIl Sanow]

So, where is this? Is it on display?

 

G

[uniformcollector]

So, where is this? Is it on display?

 

G

 

It's in the Smithsonian Museum of American History in DC. http://americanhistory.si.edu/presidency/2b1a.html

[GIl Sanow]

Ahhhh -- I have seen their dispays and also those at the Eisenhower Center in KS, but did not recall seeing this uniform, or if it was on display then, it did not have all its ribbons.

 

G

[uniformcollector]

Ahhhh -- I have seen their dispays and also those at the Eisenhower Center in KS, but did not recall seeing this uniform, or if it was on display then, it did not have all its ribbons.

 

G

 

 

Maybe that's because it's in the president's exhibit and not the military one. The museum has some incredible items (most of which aren't even on display).

[kammo-man]

[Allan H.]

It is kind of odd that one of the awards that Ike was most proud of was his NAVY Distinguished Service Medal, yet the ribbon isn't on the jacket. I wonder if this jacket didn't come from the Eisenhower library and the ribbon bars reconstructed by someone who overlooked the Navy DSM? Ike usually wore three ribbons on his jacket- Army DSM, Navy DSM, LOM.

 

Allan

[uniformcollector]

It is kind of odd that one of the awards that Ike was most proud of was his NAVY Distinguished Service Medal, yet the ribbon isn't on the jacket. I wonder if this jacket didn't come from the Eisenhower library and the ribbon bars reconstructed by someone who overlooked the Navy DSM? Ike usually wore three ribbons on his jacket- Army DSM, Navy DSM, LOM.

 

Allan

 

I believe that this one belongs to the Smithsonian and not the library, but I'm not sure. The library does have numerous uniforms (one of which is on display in the signatures exhibit in the National Archives and has the three ribbons).

[Allan H.]

While this may be the same uniform as the one in the photo of Ike getting another DSM, those are not the ribbons that were on the uniform when he was awarded it. What I was saying in my previous post is that I have no doubt that Ike never wore the ribbons on that jacket in that configuration as the rack is missing the ribbon that Ike was most proud of.

 

I believe that the ribbon bar was made for display after Ike was finished wearing it. Whether it went directly to the Smithsonian or to the Smithsonian from the Eisenhower Center, it is kind of a moot point. I seriously doubt that Ike ever wore that rack on that uniform.

 

Allan

[carbinephalen]

Uh oh! Pop shots fired Gates!!

 

Hahaha!

[kammo-man]

Why would they have a put together ?

 

[kammo-man]

 

Desert boss

[kammo-man]

[uniformcollector]

While this may be the same uniform as the one in the photo of Ike getting another DSM, those are not the ribbons that were on the uniform when he was awarded it. What I was saying in my previous post is that I have no doubt that Ike never wore the ribbons on that jacket in that configuration as the rack is missing the ribbon that Ike was most proud of.

 

I believe that the ribbon bar was made for display after Ike was finished wearing it. Whether it went directly to the Smithsonian or to the Smithsonian from the Eisenhower Center, it is kind of a moot point. I seriously doubt that Ike ever wore that rack on that uniform.

 

Allan

 

First, I apologize for not being clearer about the other post. I wasn't trying to say that that is the same uniform. I'm sure a General like Ike had numerous summer uniforms. Also, although he was very proud of his Navy DSM, there are many instances where he hasn't worn it after he received it (even in some official photos). When Ike is so famous for his top three ribbons, why would anyone go through the trouble of finding all the foreign awards and not include the Navy DSM?

[Allan H.]

Here's a painting of Ike wearing the trio.

 

For the record, I was not arguing with anyone's post. I was simply saying that I don't believe that Ike ever wore the tan uniform that started this thread with that set of ribbons on it. This wouldn't be the first time that someone at a museum put together ribbons etc. so as to display a uniform. Back when Marlow White was still living in Leavenworth, I used to go see him regularly. I came back from Desert Storm and visited with him and he showed me a project that his ribbon specialist (Hilda) was working on. She was putting together three identical ribbon racks for General H.. Norman Schwarzkopf. She was working on getting examples of every foreign award that he had been awarded. Here was the interesting part. None of the three sets were for Stormin' Norman. One set was going to West Point. One set was going to a museum in Florida, and the last set were being put together for display at Marlow White's store. I have often wondered if H. Norman ever actually had a complete set of ribbons on a uniform. The long and the short of it is that just because a uniform is on display in even the most notable of museums, doesn't mean that everything is exactly as worn by the original owner.

 

Allan

[gwb123]

Owen,

 

I lightened up your photo enough to see that it belonged to Colin Powell.

[kammo-man]

Gil

It was really dark in the case nd the flash blew out the jacket.

Good move

O

[gwb123]

I shoot without flash as a rule in museums. I then spend a lot of time at home on Photoshop trying to bring the photos back to proper light. Sometimes it is just a total loss.

 

I understand museums have to keep the lighting down to prevent damage to the exhibits. But it does get frustrating. Somehow it is often the one you really, really wanted to show that fails.

 

Even if you get enough light to shoot, the glare of overhead lights on the cases is often another problem. You also get a lot of reflection... I don't know how many photos I've brought home only to find my reflection right in the center of what I was shooting!

[uniformcollector]

Here's a painting of Ike wearing the trio.

 

For the record, I was not arguing with anyone's post. I was simply saying that I don't believe that Ike ever wore the tan uniform that started this thread with that set of ribbons on it. This wouldn't be the first time that someone at a museum put together ribbons etc. so as to display a uniform. Back when Marlow White was still living in Leavenworth, I used to go see him regularly. I came back from Desert Storm and visited with him and he showed me a project that his ribbon specialist (Hilda) was working on. She was putting together three identical ribbon racks for General H.. Norman Schwarzkopf. She was working on getting examples of every foreign award that he had been awarded. Here was the interesting part. None of the three sets were for Stormin' Norman. One set was going to West Point. One set was going to a museum in Florida, and the last set were being put together for display at Marlow White's store. I have often wondered if H. Norman ever actually had a complete set of ribbons on a uniform. The long and the short of it is that just because a uniform is on display in even the most notable of museums, doesn't mean that everything is exactly as worn by the original owner.

 

Allan

 

I apologize if I came across wrong. I just thought it seemed odd that someone would put together a ribbon bar with almost all of his ribbons and leave out his Navy DSM when they could have just put together a bar with the top three that he is known for and wore so many times. Does anyone know if the museum mentions any of this on their website or anywhere else?