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amazing reproduction of the M1917 trench knife

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#1 jgawne

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 08:03 AM

I have in my hands one of Schipperfabrik's new triangular trench knife repros.

Ummm, my exact words when I saw it were "holy flerking schnitt!" Its good. Its really good. I mean with a little aging you would not look twice at a foot or two.

BUT- BOTH the scabbard and handle are deeply stamped US / H&PS / 1917

of course these was no H&PS company, and it stands for Heather and Paul Schipper. So I will bet dollars to doughnuts these will soon hit the market as real. Real knife collectors will know there was no H&PS company, but a lot of folks won't..

Just make sure people don't start to tell fibs about these, and shall we bet on how many days unill one comes up on ebay?

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:52 AM

Please post photos... I'd like to see just how bad these are made.

Thanks ,

Chuck

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 10:52 AM

I'll see if I can get that done.
but scary good is the word that comes to mind. as in scary good. but The thing is the stamping is deep into the metal so it would be a major pain to grind off, I

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 01:49 PM

I have in my hands one of Schipperfabrik's new triangular trench knife repros.

Ummm, my exact words when I saw it were "holy flerking schnitt!" Its good. Its really good. I mean with a little aging you would not look twice at a foot or two.

BUT- BOTH the scabbard and handle are deeply stamped US / H&PS / 1917

of course these was no H&PS company, and it stands for Heather and Paul Schipper. So I will bet dollars to doughnuts these will soon hit the market as real. Real knife collectors will know there was no H&PS company, but a lot of folks won't..

Just make sure people don't start to tell fibs about these, and shall we bet on how many days unill one comes up on ebay?


The H&PS was probably added to keep people from faking them. I have seen modern tin-type photographs where the photographer adds a item - like a old whiskey jug with his name boldy written on it - to eavery one of his images to keep peopel from passing his modern work off as an original Civil war item.

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 02:52 PM

I have in my hands one of Schipperfabrik's new triangular trench knife repros.

Ummm, my exact words when I saw it were "holy flerking schnitt!" Its good. Its really good. I mean with a little aging you would not look twice at a foot or two.

BUT- BOTH the scabbard and handle are deeply stamped US / H&PS / 1917

of course these was no H&PS company, and it stands for Heather and Paul Schipper. So I will bet dollars to doughnuts these will soon hit the market as real. Real knife collectors will know there was no H&PS company, but a lot of folks won't..

Just make sure people don't start to tell fibs about these, and shall we bet on how many days unill one comes up on ebay?


Could you tell me how much did you pay and where thjis are available?
Of course pictures are highly desired.
Karl

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 03:50 PM

I am lazy and so the photos are at my blog of oddball WW1 facts I have been turning up

Link to my W1 blog

Here is the INSANE part- Mine was part of a trade deal but they expect to sell them for $100 bucks. Yup folks 100USD (which is like five euros now).

www.schipperfabrik.com

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 12:04 AM

Yup folks 100USD (which is like five euros now).


At least 15.... ;)

#8 Larry D.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 07:19 AM

I'd have one.
On my budget, it's gonna be the closect I ever get.
Like a dummy, I passed on one in so-so shape because the blade was slightly bent. Scabbard and knife was a whopping 125 bucks.
That was about 18 months ago.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 10:34 AM

Please post photos... I'd like to see just how bad these are made.

Thanks ,

Chuck


a pic from his blog with the repro on top.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 02:12 PM

Yep, that stamp is the only thing that's going to stand in the way on those. Wonder when someone will make a good replica of the MK I 1918? Given how popular they are I find it hard to believe only crappy replicas from Pakistan are available.

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Posted 28 June 2008 - 02:13 PM

JG,
Any idea where they are made?Germany,China UK??just curious.They look very nice from the photos.I agree these will be popoing up for sale.Aged and a story to boot.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 02:33 PM

I have no idea where they are made. But it looks like the final cost is going to be $130. I hear there will be a following run of he other type with the different knuckle styles.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 08:06 PM

Wow that does look pretty good, not perfect but very good! Not being too clued on WW1 i've never seen that knife before, but man it looks nasty!

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:36 PM

"i've never seen that knife before, but man it looks nasty!"

Just ask this German how nasty they were. Pic is from the USMC Museum.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:00 PM

Hehe, cool setup

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 09:26 PM

Wow that does look pretty good, not perfect but very good! Not being too clued on WW1 i've never seen that knife before, but man it looks nasty!

Here's a few pics of mine, a later model I belive.

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 09:28 PM

Markings.

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 09:29 PM

:blink: Oppps, Markings.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:20 AM

I haven't seen the repo knife but have saw the repo scabbard. No doubt it was a repo. I don't think anyone has the ability to age a leather scabbard. Hard to repo 100 year old leather

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 01:08 PM

I haven't seen the repo knife but have saw the repo scabbard. No doubt it was a repo. I don't think anyone has the ability to age a leather scabbard. Hard to repo 100 year old leather


Go to a Civil War show sometime, seems like a common skill for those dealers!

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