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I decided to take a chance on buying what was described as a post Civil War frock coat. It looks like a very fine tailored piece with a very dark blue, almost black wool. I can't determine if the quilted lining is the black turned green polished cotton often seen. The buttons are anchored with rings like I've seen on a couple of frocks. The button holes on the entire coat are hand stitched for the rings. The first thing that caught my attention on the liner was this construction of the lining. There is an strip of silk bordering the wool. On the button side, it keeps the wearer from feeling the rings. The color is....interesting.

 

Measurements

 

total length - 37 inches

skirt only - 19 inches

sleeve - 26 inches

elbow - 7 7/8 inches

cuff - 6 inches

across shoulders - 16 1/4 inches

collar exterior - 1 1/8 inches

velvet collar interior - 1 1/4 inches

 

 

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another pocket pic. Also, the skirt edge has a raw edge. I looked for a fraternal cross at the sleeve bottoms and didn't see any evidence of ever having them.

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There is some stitching evidence of a shoulder board being attached. The threads are about 1 1/2 inches wide by 3 1/2 inches long. Not that it proves anything.

 

 

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To me, the coat appears to be "Indian Wars" period. The color is more black than Civil War dark blue and it does not appear to have very wide elbows. Civil War Federal frock coats are generally a blue color and have sleeves that are very wide at the elbow. If it were mine, I would consider it from the 1880s period.

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A really interesting frock coat. It does have the puff sleeves at the shoulder that is indicative of the CW time period so I think it could be either Civil War or early Indian War period from what I can see. I am not thrilled with the purple flap in the interior but I do like the lining. I think you were wise to take a chance on this frock coat.

 

Is the bottom of the skirt un-hemmed?

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Thanks for responding guys. The bottom of the skirt is unhemmed. Regarding the purple silk, I was wondering if it was the owner customizing it like some coats had a pocket on the exterior. The silk trim would never be seen when worn and served a purpose. Just my guess.

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gunbunnyB/3/75FA

i would think its most likely not too long after the CW. the purple was most likely the tailor using scraps. its a nice looking item.

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I agree with Sarge, it's C.W. or Indian Wars era up until the early 1870's when the Army adopted new uniforms. The late 1870's and later Indian Wars era frock coats were shorter.

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