doinworkinvans Posted September 9, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2014 I cant tell if its just my eyes playing tricks or does the middle B25 look as though the front glass/canopy is busted out?! When I saved the photo I forgot to put a caption with it so I dont know where it was or date.... Judging by the land scape it looks to be stateside....thats why I wonder if that glass is really busted! What do you think??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitana Posted September 9, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2014 It sure does. Look at it upclose and the canopy is different. I actually looks like there is someone trying to clean the windshield for the pilots. "There's a THING... on the wing!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crotalus358 Posted September 9, 2014 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2014 Could've been from a bird strike...those impacts have the potential to make quite a mess and do a lot of damage. Nice Twilight Zone reference, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted September 9, 2014 Holy cow - It DOES look like there is someone there....what in the world....man i wish i knew where i saved this one from.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugme Posted September 9, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2014 I blew it up as much as I could before it pixelated, it is damaged but, I don't think anyone is out there doing windows, i think that may be some of the damage folded back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstop61 Posted September 9, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted September 9, 2014 Well at least I know Im not crazy now - I wont tell how long ive debated whether it was just me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 24, 2015 Old post here - and may not be of any interest but ran across this photo again on Fold3, where the following info had been added recently: 23 February 1945: On a mission to hit the north railroad bridge at Campo, Italy, B-25J serial 43-27680 "Stuff" of the 445th Bomb Sq, 321st BG received a direct hit in the nose from flak; the bombardier, 2LT Lonnie B. Harvel, Jr was killed instantly. He was the squadron's only casualty that day. now we know the story - rest in peace sir ***pic from findagrave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willysmb44 Posted September 1, 2015 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2015 I can (but would rather not) imagine what the inside of the nose of that plane must have looked like after it landed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmedalgi Posted September 1, 2015 Share #10 Posted September 1, 2015 It also looks like there's sheet metal missing below the Plexiglas. Compare the two noses. Interesting pic, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted September 1, 2015 I can (but would rather not) imagine what the inside of the nose of that plane must have looked like after it landed. Yea when I first saw the image I didnt even notice the damage but second time around I did....and then the 3rd time I found out who the brave man was that lost his life. I am sure it wasnt pleasant. Brenner Pass was a tough place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umac Posted September 1, 2015 Share #12 Posted September 1, 2015 Great follow up, your research brought this good airplane photo to light as an historical event and allowed those who read your post to remember 2LT Lonnie B. Harvel, Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted September 2, 2015 Share #13 Posted September 2, 2015 I've been in the nose of a B-25 and there's not much room up there for one person (even without the insulated flightsuit, helmet, goggles, oxygen mask, etc.) and I had a morbid thought. Is that Lt Harvel's body blown partially out of the nose and stuck in the slipstream? How horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hink441 Posted September 2, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2015 I've been in the nose of a B-25 and there's not much room up there for one person (even without the insulated flightsuit, helmet, goggles, oxygen mask, etc.) and I had a morbid thought. Is that Lt Harvel's body blown partially out of the nose and stuck in the slipstream? How horrible. I was thinking the very same thought. It looks like it could possibly be a man. I hope we are wrong and that is just debris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doinworkinvans Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #15 Posted September 2, 2015 I hope we are wrong too...thats a very morbid thought. But war is hell. God rest this man's soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundance Posted September 2, 2015 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2015 Yikes! In any event - rest in peace Lt. Harvel. Incredible that they stayed on mission but I'd guess you're best protected that way. What would you say are the 4 verticle lines below the middle ship, a feature on the ground, a flaw on the photo or bombs? In movies and photos the bombs seem to drop quite a distance in a horizontal position but I assume they nose down at some point. ...and It's always good seeing Captain Kirk when he was young and didn't have it all together like he did later in (fake) life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron3-6 Posted September 2, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2015 I think you're seeing the plexi and window frame bent back....the dark object slumped over the bombsight is likely the Lt. Sad day. Likely why this picture was taken because of the damage to the center plane. We forget a lot of times planes "made it back" , only to have members of the crew dead or dying, or ever worse alive and trapped in the ball turret. The opening scene of 12 O'clock High comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted September 2, 2015 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2015 That is a horrific hole on the right side/point of entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted September 2, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2015 I think you're seeing the plexi and window frame bent back....the dark object slumped over the bombsight is likely the Lt. I agree.....Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted September 2, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2015 Here's the B-25 Champaign Gal in Urbana, Ohio and me and my son in the nose. Pretty cramped in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted September 2, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 2, 2015 I tried the photo editing software I have and it does look like the framework of the nose Plexi bent backwards and possibly some items protruding out and blurred by the wind in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROBS Posted September 2, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 2, 2015 WOW very interesting photo and great follow up on the thread. I can't imagine what these guys went through. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattS Posted September 2, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 2, 2015 I went back and was able to clean it up a little. The white marks and those below on the side appear to be bomb missions. I found this 'after' photo of the aircraft with a new nose and new artwork that "covered the bomb mission symbols". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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