VenitHora Posted August 28, 2014 Share #1 Posted August 28, 2014 Hello, Can anyone help me ID the jumper worn by the man on the left? Picture taken in late 43-early 44 (supposedly) aboard the USS Yorktown II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted August 28, 2014 Share #2 Posted August 28, 2014 I believe there is a early denim work jumper/jacket worn by the navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted August 28, 2014 Share #3 Posted August 28, 2014 Looks like it has. Zipper front, and a breast pocket. Do not think it is a standard issue Navy item. The fabric does not appear to be denim either. Think this may be some sort of civilian type shirt adopted for shipboard use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted August 28, 2014 Share #4 Posted August 28, 2014 Could it also be one of the Navy issue sports / PT jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant S. Posted August 28, 2014 Share #5 Posted August 28, 2014 Could not find anything similar in Jeff Warner's books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted August 28, 2014 Share #6 Posted August 28, 2014 I don't think the NAVY issued sports/PT gear at that time. Individual commands would procure sports uniforms for their teams, but I don't think there was any standard NAVY issue of that stuff. Others are seeing that zipper front right? Other than being blue, I don't think this shirt is "Navy". Possibly a sports shirt from the ship or just a civilian shirt that has been pressed into service. This is much more common in the Navy than non Navy people know, especially the farther back you go. For example, leather civilian belts worn with dungarees and work khakis was almost universal in the beginning. Gray civilian sweat shirts were also common Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted August 28, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 28, 2014 Here is a photo of two different Navy issue Athletic / PT jumpers. They were made by Wilson sportswear for the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted August 28, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 28, 2014 I don't think there is a zipper on the pullover in the photo. I think it is the sailors white skin showing through the neck opening. Look at his "farmers tan" it shows where the white of his skin goes below the neck and would match through the opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageproductions Posted August 28, 2014 Share #9 Posted August 28, 2014 Here's a close-up of the tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted August 28, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 28, 2014 Again, don't believe those were "issue" items in that as you went through clothing issue in boot camp, these were tossed in your bag. Never saw anything like it on a sea bag list, which is "issue". Were these available, sure looks like it. Were they handed out to guys on ships sports teams, looks like, just like foul weather gear. But, then again, what do I know, I bow to your expertise. Probably a terminology thing with what "issue" means. And not having a stock number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenitHora Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted August 29, 2014 Doyler, Grant S, Sigsaye, and Vintage productions, Thanks for the informative response. Someone I know has a very similar Denim set. I am guessing the set is civilian private purchase? May be something like what is being worn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted August 31, 2014 Share #12 Posted August 31, 2014 This is what I thought it was possibly but these are a different cut/style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pararaftanr2 Posted August 31, 2014 Share #13 Posted August 31, 2014 Guys, I can't tell what the man in the first post is wearing, but those Wilson athletic jumpers were issued and worn by Naval Aviation Cadets. The group below is undergoing survival training. Regards, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted August 31, 2014 Share #14 Posted August 31, 2014 Great picture Paul. Thanks for posting. I have a black wool lined pull over thats British.They were issued to 17th Airborne men prior to the Bulge.Mine came from a Medic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigsaye Posted August 31, 2014 Share #15 Posted August 31, 2014 I do believe that the man in the first photo is wearing some version of the athletic pull over. I do not believe he is wearing a denim shirt. Now, what I am trying to say about "Issue" is this: the "NAVY" did not issue these. They WERE locally procured by individual commands, and issued to members of THAT command for what ever reason. This is a very common practice. Several times during my Navy career, I was issued items that were not normal "Navy" issue, but thought necessary by that command. For example, my first Amphib had a CO that thought assault boat crews should wear OD greens like the Marines so that if we were stuck on the beach we would not stand out so much. So he had the supply officer find some and "Issued" them out. No other ship did this as far as I know and it was not Navy policy. My last ship "Issued" all officers and CPOs Army pull over sweaters to wear with our working khakis, and high top steel toed Flight Deck boots. Just a ship thing, not done Navy Wide. That is what I mean by the athletic shirts not being "Navy Issue". They were procured from a commercial source by individual commands and issued to specific individuals for what ever reason (and To any one who could snag one, like flight deck jerseys). Any way, the shirt in the first pic is not denim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29navy Posted September 21, 2014 Share #16 Posted September 21, 2014 I know that athletic gear, uniforms and such were in the Navy supply system; In addition to commands procuring from local sources. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted September 21, 2014 Share #17 Posted September 21, 2014 We have an older thread about Navy denim jumpers at http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/145740-wwi-navy-denim-pullover/?p=1103003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-40Warhawk Posted January 8, 2019 Share #18 Posted January 8, 2019 Here is another one of the Wilson Sporting Goods Co. pull over like vintageproductions shared. These were from a cadet too, and both made by Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-40Warhawk Posted January 8, 2019 Share #19 Posted January 8, 2019 I should have added that one is twill and the other is wool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted January 8, 2019 Share #20 Posted January 8, 2019 Doyler, Grant S, Sigsaye, and Vintage productions, Thanks for the informative response. Someone I know has a very similar Denim set. I am guessing the set is civilian private purchase? May be something like what is being worn? That denim jumper looks very similar to the style worn by cadets at the Coast guard Academy during the 1960s. Had a shipmate that had a couple of them, notes that he did some horse trading during a summer cadet training cruise.. The jumper with "SHACK" stencilled has a slightly different collar. I believe the Academy was either a shawl collar or sailor style flap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MastersMate Posted January 8, 2019 Share #21 Posted January 8, 2019 Photo from an earlier time frame.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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