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I've enjoyed posting my crap on this forum. Digging out these things from my garage and storage unit has been enjoyable, as it brings back quite a few memories for me.

 

Having located another box full of Desert Storm trophies, I offer these for your review:

 

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Helmet ... Not steel, but more of some form of hard plastic or kevlar. Doubt it provided any real protection:

 

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I took this helmet off of a dead Iraqi. When I looked up under the rigging I discovered what I guess would be considered 'porn' ... Magazine page of women models

 

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Camo uniform - Possibly Republican Guard (no insignia on it):

 

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This uniform is of British make. At the time it was some minor scandal that the Brits had shipped most of their surplus desert light uniforms to Iraq. A few years later when the Brits deployed to the sandbox they were forced to wear heavier material, because the Iraqis had most of their light weight uniforms!

 

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Had to get the T-shirts:

 

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This T-shirt is Egyptian. I spent part of the war with their 9th Commando Regiment, and as a result was awarded the Egyptian Commando Badge for service with them during ground combat operations. I have a paper certificate put away, as well as DA order authorizing me to wear the badge. I just don't have an actual badge! Looked online, but no luck.

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Finally a framed commemorative Veteran's stamp display my mom gave me shortly after my return. These stamps are thin metal. I'll hang this in my home office.

 

 

 

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Brian

 

Some great items.

 

We had a local army reserve unit that was a transpotration unit and they brought home a lot of the helmets.A few over the years surfaced at the flea markets here.The ones with the rubber bumpers all seemed new or barley used when they brought them home.Seems because of the rules helmets,field gear,gasmasks were the items allowed home.One local unit said they were told they could bring home the bayonets then told no later.

 

The gear I have seen all seemed to be impoted.I saw Brit pattern belts and gear made in India,uniforms made there as well.Some items were from China and the gasmasks I have seen were made by Draeger in Germany.I guess with all the oil money Sadaam just bought/sourced goods on the open market opposed to manufacturing.I agree the helmets must have been dismal for ballistic protection and even some what hot to wear for what little protection they offered.Really like the Burlap covered one.Looks like a old sandbag.I have a buddy who may part with some gear and he has a couple helmets with the green viynl camo netting.

 

With all the things you have an instant collection.

THanks for posting

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Brian

 

Some great items.

 

We had a local army reserve unit that was a transpotration unit and they brought home a lot of the helmets.A few over the years surfaced at the flea markets here.The ones with the rubber bumpers all seemed new or barley used when they brought them home.Seems because of the rules helmets,field gear,gasmasks were the items allowed home.One local unit said they were told they could bring home the bayonets then told no later.

 

The gear I have seen all seemed to be impoted.I saw Brit pattern belts and gear made in India,uniforms made there as well.Some items were from China and the gasmasks I have seen were made by Draeger in Germany.I guess with all the oil money Sadaam just bought/sourced goods on the open market opposed to manufacturing.I agree the helmets must have been dismal for ballistic protection and even some what hot to wear for what little protection they offered.Really like the Burlap covered one.Looks like a old sandbag.I have a buddy who may part with some gear and he has a couple helmets with the green viynl camo netting.

 

With all the things you have an instant collection.

THanks for posting

 

I appreciate it!

 

Funny thing is that at some point USCENTCOM put out the word that bayonets could NOT be brought back. We went to the local U.S. Army Post Office and asked if they could be mailed back to the 'States ... They said "no problem, as long as they're declared on the customs form."

 

Guys sent them home without issue!

 

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I appreciate it!

 

Funny thing is that at some point USCENTCOM put out the word that bayonets could NOT be brought back. We went to the local U.S. Army Post Office and asked if they could be mailed back to the 'States ... They said "no problem, as long as they're declared on the customs form."

 

Guys sent them home without issue!

 

 

 

Sounds typical.The co-worker I had who served in the Marine unit,reserves was an artillery was a drver for a Najor there.He was the 3rd HumVee across the border the night the went in.First one was fine.The secomd in fromt of him hit a mine with its rear wheel.Scared the hell out of him but he sad no one got hurt.He was able to later drive trhe Major to various sites the unit had shelled and inspect.He picked up a few item.Several leaflets around the position,helmets,canteen etc.He found a piol hin in a mmo bo in bnkCarried it for a while and one day pulled it out and gave to the Major.He knew he couldnt get it back.The Major asked him where he got it and he said from the bunker site.They had been told not to go snooping or digging around for fear of booby trapped items.Said they were lectured a lot about it.The Major didt come down on him and tokd him to dont take anymore chances.Not sure what it was but sounded like a Makarov automatic.Not sure if the Major got it home or not.

 

I think some got back as I seen a Makarov recently at a show that was brought back.

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Sounds typical.The co-worker I had who served in the Marine unit,reserves was an artillery was a drver for a Najor there.He was the 3rd HumVee across the border the night the went in.First one was fine.The secomd in fromt of him hit a mine with its rear wheel.Scared the hell out of him but he sad no one got hurt.He was able to later drive trhe Major to various sites the unit had shelled and inspect.He picked up a few item.Several leaflets around the position,helmets,canteen etc.He found a piol hin in a mmo bo in bnkCarried it for a while and one day pulled it out and gave to the Major.He knew he couldnt get it back.The Major asked him where he got it and he said from the bunker site.They had been told not to go snooping or digging around for fear of booby trapped items.Said they were lectured a lot about it.The Major didt come down on him and tokd him to dont take anymore chances.Not sure what it was but sounded like a Makarov automatic.Not sure if the Major got it home or not.

 

I think some got back as I seen a Makarov recently at a show that was brought back.

U.S. MPs searched every nook and cranny of the items we put into our shipping containers for the trip back to the U.S. We had to open every box, bag, etc.. so that they could look into every one of them before they were sealed into the container.

 

 

There were a few tricks for getting pistols home!

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The green dominant camo uniform is for the Popular Army which were sort of like the home guard units. The olive green beret is for logistics troops, black is army and Republican Guard, the helmet with the bumper is Iraqi made and usually called an M90,the burlap covered helmet is probably South Korean made and called an M80. The M80 does have some ballistic properties where the M90 is all for looks. I may have an Egyptian Commando badge if you want to pm me. Hope this info helps with your items. Scott.

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The green dominant camo uniform is for the Popular Army which were sort of like the home guard units. The olive green beret is for logistics troops, black is army and Republican Guard, the helmet with the bumper is Iraqi made and usually called an M90,the burlap covered helmet is probably South Korean made and called an M80. The M80 does have some ballistic properties where the M90 is all for looks. I may have an Egyptian Commando badge if you want to pm me. Hope this info helps with your items. Scott.

 

Scott,

 

Do you have more information on the green dominant? I picked up one when we cleared (and later occupied) a building at al Asad in May of '03. The building (from what we could get out of our interpreters) was used by Psyop or propaganda folks. NOTHING Air Force in this building (equipment and uniforms), just Army. It was actually pretty creepy as it was if everyone just disappeared from the premises...food on plates and stoves, personal items left behind, etc. It looked like people stripped naked and left uniforms in place. At any rate, there was also a red ascot that was with the pile of clothes that I'm yet to identify.

 

I have a ton of stuff at the other house. I will post pics when I can get to Milwaukee.

 

 

Best,

 

Peter

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Scott,

 

Do you have more information on the green dominant? I picked up one when we cleared (and later occupied) a building at al Asad in May of '03. The building (from what we could get out of our interpreters) was used by Psyop or propaganda folks. NOTHING Air Force in this building (equipment and uniforms), just Army. It was actually pretty creepy as it was if everyone just disappeared from the premises...food on plates and stoves, personal items left behind, etc. It looked like people stripped naked and left uniforms in place. At any rate, there was also a red ascot that was with the pile of clothes that I'm yet to identify.

 

I have a ton of stuff at the other house. I will post pics when I can get to Milwaukee.

 

 

Best,

 

Peter

 

Like I mentioned above Peter, that camo was primarily issued to the Popular Army which was like an organized militia or home guard. The uniforms are usually Romanian or South Korean in origin but sometimes Iraqi produced as well. They were worn with little to no insignia and there is a matching cap in that pattern. Not really sure what else I can tell you except they are fairly common as Iraqi uniforms go but also desirable. Scott

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Peter, You have some excellent pieces! The dual purpose poncho/shelter half is a nicely marked one. These are not common at all and you hardly ever see a complete set (ie poles, pins, rope, hood, and poncho/shelter). The lighter uniform is also a hard one to find with the pants, especially matching pants. While camo uniforms can be found in almost any unit, as they are not particularly specific to any unit, the light camo (referred to by collectors as Leberge patter) may associate to mechanized infantry or could be a captured Kuwaiti uniform. I noticed a nylon duffle bag. That may also associate to the Kuwaiti Army vs Iraqi. Was the forest green beret found with the uniforms? It is a special forces or commando beret. One last note, the chin strap on the burlap covered helmet is a field repair and not original to the helmet. Which part of Iraq and/or Kuwait did you find these items in? Tom

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Peter, You have some excellent pieces! The dual purpose poncho/shelter half is a nicely marked one. These are not common at all and you hardly ever see a complete set (ie poles, pins, rope, hood, and poncho/shelter). The lighter uniform is also a hard one to find with the pants, especially matching pants. While camo uniforms can be found in almost any unit, as they are not particularly specific to any unit, the light camo (referred to by collectors as Leberge patter) may associate to mechanized infantry or could be a captured Kuwaiti uniform. I noticed a nylon duffle bag. That may also associate to the Kuwaiti Army vs Iraqi. Was the forest green beret found with the uniforms? It is a special forces or commando beret. One last note, the chin strap on the burlap covered helmet is a field repair and not original to the helmet. Which part of Iraq and/or Kuwait did you find these items in? Tom

 

I appreciate the notes Tom!

 

I went into western Kuwait during the ground offensive, and found some items near Al Abrak (we took the police station there), then others in the vicinity of Ali al Salem airfield. The burlap-covered helmet had been worn by an Iraqi KIA just north of Kuwait City. The chin strap had been repaired at some point, and within the inner liner was the magazine ad - women's clothing.

 

Best - Bryan

 

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Great pieces as always Bryang, thanks for sharing! You should get a mannequin and do an Iraqi display, you have all the things required I would imagine.

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