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Can anyone ID these Pants? Mountain maybe?


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I have no idea what these are. My best guess is some sort of mountain pants. There is a QM tag and a size tag, no other nomenclature. The size is 34x31. Made of a faux sheepskin, button and belt closer at waste and pull strings at the cuffs. Anyone?

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THey look to be a liner for the mountain trousers.There is a parka liner that is similiar but has an ALPACA type lining for the pull over parkas.Also there is a liner for the 3/4 length "trench coat" style parka as well.

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These don't match either the WW2 Alpaca liners or the post war M1951 liner. Could they even be for Air Crews?

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Not sure

 

The color of the lining and the backing material is like the ones in the full lenth ski parkas.

 

Maybe these are a early or first pattern liner

 

Typically the Air COrps stuff have the AAF type lables.

 

Maybe we can get Craig Pickerall or Paul (BOGHOTS)to chime in

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Any photos of the QM tag?

I have a pair of these I've had for many years; will post photos as soon as I shoot them.

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General Apathy

I have no idea what these are. My best guess is some sort of mountain pants. There is a QM tag and a size tag, no other nomenclature. The size is 34x31. Made of a faux sheepskin, button and belt closer at waste and pull strings at the cuffs. Anyone?

 

Hi Sully, I believe them to be trousers, field, pile,, a tentative spec date of P.Q.D. No. 367. May 27 1943 designed to be worn with the 1943 o.d. sateen combat uniform but dropped in favor of field wool combat pants worn as liners.

 

mountain troops did have a similar trouser liner but it was closed with buttons on the side hip, unlike yours with the front strap and buckle closure.

 

ken

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Sully, here are some shots of a variant of what you have, here showing the great similarities between the Trouser Liner and the Liner for the Reversible Parka-Overcoat. Bought from an advanced collector in the early '90s, he described them as a short-lived cold weather Liner as described by G.A. above...

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And the back; I suspect that the loops at the waist are for the Trouser Suspenders to pass through, to prevent the Liners from sliding down and ending up around the wearer's butt...

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What ever they are they look warm.

 

They are! I tried 'em out when I lived in Houston (21 years) during a really cold "blue norther" season...very comfortable.

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General Apathy

Sully, here are some shots of a variant of what you have, here showing the great similarities between the Trouser Liner and the Liner for the Reversible Parka-Overcoat. Bought from an advanced collector in the early '90s, he described them as a short-lived cold weather Liner as described by G.A. above...

 

 

Hi Flage, nice set of photo's. ;)

 

ken

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General- thanks for the comments!

I just looked up these Liners in your reference, and you have 2 variations there, Inner Pile and Outer Pile, something I hadn't caught until now. These things seem to be pretty hard to come by!

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General Apathy and 'Flage Guy, thank you for the info and pictures. I didn't realize how uncommon these are. Any idea how many were produced and who would receive them?

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