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#1 dpcsdan

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:24 PM

I have a half dozen of these.

Does anyone else collect them?

 

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:12 PM

Half dozen of same or all different?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:17 PM

I am starting to get more in to the badges.. What are you looking for one?



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 05:11 AM

Half dozen of same or all different?

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Half dozen all different, seven of them to be specific. Will post a pic soon.

 

Looking for five and six point star versions, as well as those that say Shore Patrol.

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 05:13 AM

I am starting to get more in to the badges.. What are you looking for one?

Looking for five and six point star versions, as well as those that say Shore Patrol.

Want to build my collection and gather historical facts about the use of these badges at naval commands.

Thanks,

-dan


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#6 dpcsdan

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:29 AM

Here's what I currently have:

 

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 09:35 AM

More examples can be seen here:

http://navycollector...lice Badges.htm

 

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 12:05 PM

I have my issued Naval Station Seattle Brig badge (pictured on your site, btw) from the early 90s. I also have a couple ship's MAA badges from the 50s. Not my focus, but I do grab them when I get a chance.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:11 PM

I got this badge from a fellow forum member a few years ago:

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:25 PM

Nice, AVT series.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:20 PM

Hi Dan,

               I only have one in my collection. I do not know if this one is ww2 or 50's. I do not know a whole lot about these badges. I bought this one a few years back.  In ww2 the USS Pamanset was a Oilier and has some history to the ship. 

There is a pat number on the back, that's all I can find. 

Looks like you have a nice collection all ready.

 

Jason

 

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 06:21 PM

Nice badges, I especially like the AVT Lex badge!!

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 06:22 PM

I like it a lot, Jason. My feeling is WWII or soon after. Still learning these.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:05 AM

Latest addition. Pacific Naval Air Bases Contractor, WWII era, maker marked. I'm learning more about police / military police badges.

 

It appears civilian police force badge usage started around 1840s. I'm guessing at this point, but Western sheriff / marshall usage predated that time period.

 

USN usage timeframe still eludes me, but early USN terminology appears to have been Police Petty Officer and/or Master At Arms. 

 

I'm currently leaning toward early 1900s as USN common usage beginning period.

 

Any input from forum members?

 

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-dan

 

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:08 AM

Nice badges, I especially like the AVT Lex badge!!

I liked it, too! I've really toyed at the idea of collecting these badges...especially the early-mid century examples. They are quite exquisite in their utilitarian presentation and design!



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:14 AM

Here is one that I was so upset that I was outbid on, It was from 1944-46 for the USS Vincennes (CL-64):

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

As in other USN metal badges, clasp design shows it's early version.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:02 AM

Here is a 50s era one based on the Ed Jones, Oakland, CAL hallmark and forked catch.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:43 AM

Like the "Mess Deck" version.

Will add to my "Want List"

Thanks for posting.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:57 PM



Hi Dan,

               I only have one in my collection. I do not know if this one is ww2 or 50's. I do not know a whole lot about these badges. I bought this one a few years back.  In ww2 the USS Pamanset was a Oilier and has some history to the ship. 

There is a pat number on the back, that's all I can find. 

Looks like you have a nice collection all ready.

 

Jason

 

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Will add a picture of the back.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

I'll have to try and get pics but I have the following Navy Police / MAA badges.

 

NAVADCOM T.P.U. MAA. TPU?

 

MAA GUAM 

 

ACMAA NMCB-62

 

USS TRIPOLI LPH-10

 

GENERIC MAA

 

CHIEF MAA USS REEVES DLG-24 beautiful two tone badge

 

US NAVY POLICE NAF WASHINGTON DC INAUGURATION OF THE PRESIDENT  1989

 

US NAVY POLICE TASP (TASP?) has an alligator type clip as a fastener marked Govt Prop

 

MAA USS GLENNON DD-840

 

MAA NEWMAN K. PERRY DD-883

 

DUTY MAA USS GUIDE MSO-447

 

USN MCB ONE MAA Nice enameled Seabees seal

 

US NCSP SECURITY POLICE supposedly Navy communication site in the PI DOD seal in center

 

US NAVY MAA USS LANG

 

MAA USS SCHOFIELD DEG-3

 

PATROLMAN MILITARY POLCE CAMP LEJEUNE Marine Corps seal in center


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:53 PM

Sounds good. Think TASP is another way to say carrier?



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:57 PM

I did find this. Taipei Armed Forces Police (TASP). Maybe a joint Taipei/U.S. Navy unit?


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:11 PM

Does it look new? Could use a photo of at least that one.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 05:57 AM

My current hypothesis is 1) USN use of Police Petty Officer (P.P.O.) badges did not start until WWII, or just before WWII. A 1938 edition of The Blue Jacket's Manual does not list a collateral duty of police petty officer, whereas a 1941 edition of the BJM does list the collateral duty of P.P.O., the collateral duty of P.P.O. is listed as late as 1968 in the BJM. 

 

2) Shore Patrol badges were also likely to have started in WWII, or possibly after WWII.

 

3) Master-At-Arms, as well as Chief Master-At-Arms badges were likely not used before 1921 when the MAA specialty was discontinued. I've not yet dated an MAA badge prior to 1938, but it's early in my research.

 

4) Contracting of base security to civilian police individuals (i.e. Base Police Forces), I don't have a timeframe captured, though I believe Sampson NTC and other NTCs employed police forces during WWII.

 

Please post any info you might have.

-dan

 

 

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