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Posted 12 September 2019 - 02:47 PM
Posted 12 September 2019 - 05:51 PM
Here is a new one. No Idea about the unit. I like how the tech 5 decal over lays sgt stripes.
Looks on the back like it had an officers follow me stripe at one time ?
Antiaircraft Artillery and Guided Missile School, soon to called a Center rather than a School located at Fort Bliss Texas, a Cadre Liner for the School. Quite unusual to see a Specialist 4th Class, these soldiers if enlisted were normally Noncoms, he might of been the assistant of an Officer or a Sergeant running a range.
Edited by patches, 12 September 2019 - 05:51 PM.
Posted 12 September 2019 - 09:41 PM
Thank you Patches ! Is this a mid 50's used liner?
very late 50s into the1960s more like it.
Posted 13 September 2019 - 01:00 AM
Posted 13 September 2019 - 07:05 AM
Looks to me like the early 50s version of the specialist rank, it had a different shape. Not sure the date
Yes that is the 1955 reg type, these were worn on the sleeves past the time they were superseded by the new large size in the 1958 grade restrurter, so chances are they were seen as well as rank decals in the same period.
Here's but one example of the 1955 size Spec ranks being worn well into the 1960s. A GI of the 2nd Brigade 25th Infantry Division on his way to South Vietnam in January 1966, a Specialist 5th Class, just why he's retained these obsolete ranks is anybody's guess.
Posted 10 October 2019 - 03:50 PM
Figured I'd show off two of my nicer marked liners. Both are WWII liners with use into the 50s.
First up is an early Inland liner. It has a follow me stripe done in medical tape on the back and is marked to the 719th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Gun Battalion on the webbing.
Posted 10 October 2019 - 03:54 PM
Next is a Firestone liner with 5th ID decals on the sides and a NCO bar painted on the back. The sweatband is post war OD#7 and came out of PA so I believe this was most likely used when the 5th was training in Pennsylvania.
Interesting to note is that you can make out the outline of a previous 5th ID decal under the current ones. As far as I can tell it looks like the border less WWII era decals were painted over and the post war decals were applied.
Posted 10 October 2019 - 03:54 PM
Posted 15 October 2019 - 02:51 PM
A example of a early 70s liner of the West German based 2nd Battalion 4th Infantry 56th Artillery Brigade, the 2nd of the 4th was assigned to the brigade in September 1970. Note at this time the brigade decal doesn't have a PERSHING Tab for whatever reason.
Edited by patches, 15 October 2019 - 02:58 PM.
Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:07 PM
Just a bit of Info on the tab. This fro the Wiki Visually site on the unit's patch.
The shoulder sleeve insignia was originally approved for the 56th Artillery Brigade on 9 June 1971 The Pershing tab was authorized for wear effective 18 September 1970, it was redesignated for the 56th Field Artillery Brigade on 7 April 1972.
The TAB was out before the shoulder patch as we see.
From 1963 to 1970, the authorized shoulder sleeve insignia was the emblem of the Seventh United States Army. From 1970 to 1971, the Pershing tab was worn with the Seventh Army insignia.
Edited by patches, 15 October 2019 - 03:09 PM.
Posted 16 January 2020 - 03:30 AM
Posted 16 January 2020 - 07:09 AM
Edited by currahee1942, 16 January 2020 - 07:10 AM.
Posted 22 January 2020 - 07:12 PM
Nice marked liners seen on Captain Audie L. Murphy with an unidentified fellow officer, either a Major or a Lieutenant Colonel, and the 4th Army Commander in Texas, believe in summer of 1951, 4th Army CG at this time, LTG LeRoy Lutes.
Edited by patches, 22 January 2020 - 07:13 PM.
Posted Yesterday, 02:55 PM
Hello, I am new here. I recently came into possession of a Helmet and the Liner had some markings that I couldn't really place.
Its currently at my father's house but he is going to ship it up to me soon so I can take better pics of it later if needed. It also has a Shell but its almost completely bare of paint.
I'm just very curious of what the marking could be. My only guess is that it could be a helmet from the 551st PIB but all of the pictures of helmets I've seen have the symbol painted in white on the side and not in black nor the exact style either.
Any help would be appreciated.
Posted Yesterday, 03:15 PM
That marking is in a weird place for a unit marking, and doesn't really look like any 551st mark I've seen. It could be just a liner that a bored soldier in the Pacific drew on to personalize it.
Posted Yesterday, 03:27 PM
Thank you for the response
That was one of my other thoughts as well but this isn't my area of expertise and just wanted an outside opinion. Ive got another liner but its missing the suspension and has no markings. Im currently in the process of dating that one.
Posted Yesterday, 06:22 PM
First thing I seen is that Mariana's Bonin Command patch, nah
Posted Yesterday, 09:05 PM
I also thought of that but from what I can tell, this helmet is from 1942-43 and the Marianas-Bonin Command was established in 1947 so It makes me skeptical of it being that.
Posted Yesterday, 10:06 PM
Im in agreement.. just "sailor art" in my thinking.I posted a knife once from a CB with a Palm tree motif etched into the grip.
Also have a Navy helmet with a bit of art done to it.I will post it if I can find the old topic.
Liner and shell have been together for ever.The paint on liner is like the white paint used to paint the name on the front of the helmet.
Edited by doyler, Yesterday, 10:13 PM.
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