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#1 BROBS

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 05:57 PM

let's see pics of unapproved or unofficial devices on WWII garrison/overseas caps!!

 

post em up.

 

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:15 PM

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some early 10th MTN ones I just sold.

 



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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:16 PM

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:18 PM

Im starting to think these might have been for a cap for the 32nd INF REGT, they don't fit the profile of any other examples I have, might be for a name tag, BUT all of those examples have been one piece, so im starting to formulate a different opinion and they very well could be cap devices as far as I am concerned.

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 06:34 PM

Im starting to think these might have been for a cap for the 32nd INF REGT, they don't fit the profile of any other examples I have, might be for a name tag, BUT all of those examples have been one piece, so im starting to formulate a different opinion and they very well could be cap devices as far as I am concerned.

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These were sewn behind the tapes, that's what those little OD cloth ( HBT? ) tabs were for, in Keller's book, ( don't have it in hand now ), we see similar one's.



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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:38 AM

im waiting on delivery of Kellers books, so that might have been a useful tool. I figured the tabs were a spacer at first, though ive never seen a bucs nametag that was not one one-piece, but I have also seen the skull and crossbones on the garrison cap in pictures (though hard to tell I think theyre enamel) and I have an enamel one that I will pull out and post today at some point. I was open to the possibility of them being a cap tab, they fit the size, but since youre telling me theyre in kellers book I will be able to shut the door on that. do you remember which book? I know theres a couple, and I finally ordered the first two


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:52 AM

with these two, the Chosin Crest is modified but I actually got on the cap, so I know that was its use. the skull is spot on to one I made out in a picture back at battalion, and it came with a cap when I purchased it, so again, not 100% (because I haven't seen this exact one on that cap, just a very similar one on another cap in a picture) but I think it still goes with the "wear what you can get away with" unofficial DUI for the battalion.

 

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

OK I realized that I was not specific at all when I made this thread.

 

I want to see WW2 period devices in WW2 period photos, or WW2 devices on WW2 headwear.

 

I wonder if we can edit the thread to reflect this?

 

-Brian



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:59 AM

Here's the only picture I have right now…a chocolate garrison cap to a 2nd Lt.  The bar used to be gold plated but has worn off over the years.  I recently got loose pins identical to these crossed rifles for infantry and artillery.

 

http://s122.photobucket.com/user/Captainofthe7th/media/GEDC0463.jpg.html

 

 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:28 AM

I like that KW one Rob - thats a good example of what we are looking for....

 

Hopefully this will take off with WW2 stuff!

 

I may go over to the other thread and share the pics that Gregory has already posted.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:33 AM

These are all examples I am copying over from another thread and alllllllllllll the credit goes to user Gregory!

 

These are examples we are looking for!

 

 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:34 AM

...small US on cap!

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:34 AM

Mini wings....??

 

 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:34 AM

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 09:36 AM

perfect DWIV!



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 10:05 AM

Here's some of my ike's with garrison caps that have unofficial pins on them (I didn't have time to post pics of just the OS caps):

 

http://s307.photobucket.com/user/104thboy/media/IMAG0505_zps5a90be0f.jpg.html

This T/5 served with 104th Div. Artillery HQ Battery, his Divisional DI used as a cap device is a nicely enameled (basse-taille styled) example.

 

http://s307.photobucket.com/user/104thboy/media/IMAG0502_zpsaa095b03.jpg.html

This GI served in the 415th IR, his cap pin is a painted enamel style (hard to see in this pic)

 

http://s307.photobucket.com/user/104thboy/media/IMAG0471_zpsce5c61de.jpg.html

This Cpl. was in the 93rd Armd. Recon he used a officer's US device as a cap badge.

 

I'm sure these were technically all unofficial. As of note I've never seen two 104th Divisional DI's used on the lapels, only on the OS caps.

 



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:31 AM

One example ...

 

 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 11:47 AM

awesome guys!  keep em coming.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:16 PM

Perfect fella's!! Now thats what I am talking about!



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:11 PM

The soldier in post #12 wearing the officer-style US on his cap may be a member of the Counter Intelligence Corps or some other type of specialized investigator.  It's impossible to see whether he's wearing rank insignia or an SSI on his sleeve, but the fact that the two men are apparently exploring a bunker may indicate that he's there to look for documents or other items of intelligence value.  Soldiers assigned to the CIC wore officer-style US insignia instead of rank insignia, just as CI agents do today.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:53 AM

436BS - 7BG in India

 

What does the guy on the front have on his cap?  Is that a wing and prop??

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 08:53 AM

close up

 

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:10 AM

Some more goodies - Any ideas!?!?!?! 

 

 

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:11 AM

close ups

 

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 09:43 AM

gosh it's really hard to tell what those are on the last ones.... ??




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