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#226 63 RECON

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 03:51 AM

I'm fairly sure this belongs in this thread.

 

I purchased this shirt from Bob at Vintage Productions and its had a couple of other owners over the years. Bob was right when he said the pictures do not do it justice.

 

The shirt belonged to a Col. Serge Demyanenko. Col. Demyanenko served in Vietnam between '66 and '67 in an advisory role (I'm a little unsure of what he exactly did in Vietnam) and retired after 31 years of service as a Col. in Special Forces. He has written a book called "The Madness" which is a fiction piece but based on his life and experiences. 

 

The shirt has direct embroidered rank and crossed rifles on the collars, US Army, senior jump wings, CIB on the left chest and on the right his name, ARVN qualification badge and early German "Picasso" wings, so called because apparently when the Bundeswehr was first created the members did not like the wings. Serge was awarded them in 1962 when stationed in Germany with the 1st Airborne battle Group.

 

A Black and Gold ranger tab is visible on the left shoulder, I can faintly make out the ghosting of a missing patch which was most likely a MACV SSI.

 

Over the years the Ranger Scroll from the right shoulder has disappeared but it was an in-country made one as Serge advised in the 4th Ranger Group and you can see the outline of the scroll and where the red thread has bled into the shirt. (be great to find a replacement scroll)

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 03:53 AM

Ghost of ARVN Ranger Scroll on RHS and Ranger Tab and ghost of SSI on LHS

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 03:54 AM

LH chest embroidery 

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 03:54 AM

RH chest embroidery

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:11 AM

Thats really cool .

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 06:39 PM

The following photo has been published dozens of times, including the back cover of Shelby Stanton's US Army Uniforms of the Vietnam War.

In addition to the helmet, Cpt. Devlin's uniform is the very definition of a "Christmas Tree Uniform". Before anybody responds to that, I am sure this is what he wore for parade and ceremony purposes, and his field uniform was far less ornate.

Also, we have a later uniform of another Ranger Advisor clearly showing his shoulder sleeve insignia and ARVN camo.

I know that man! Gerry is a GREAT guy, helped me find out about CPT David W. Bowman, ARVN BDQ advisor to the 44th with Gerry. Just a super guy, and roger he was and is legit. Great photo of him. Also spoke on COL Daniel Lord Baldwin, Gerry never ran into him but heard of him. He has a chapter in CSM Martins "Black Tigers" book on the BDQ. Great stuff. 

 

Airborne!!!

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 07:49 PM



RH chest embroidery

Excellent, I like that pattern BW Parachute Badge, it's the 3rd pattern.

 

Just for reference sake if we ever see West German Parachute Badges on 60s uniforms.

 

These were the 1st, a direct copy Oval and all of the U.S. Army type, worn only for a year or so, 1956-57.

 

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Followed by this 2nd pattern, a more traditional style, this 2nd pattern was again worn for only a year or so 1957-58

 

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Then came along this one, the one Demyanenko had, this the 3rd Pattern was worn from 1958 to 1966.

 

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And finaly the one still use today, 1966-present. Interestingly the 3rd pattern and the early version of this final pattern did not have a metal version, for example, 1960s into the early 70s Officer portraits of Graduates of the Command and Staff College at Leavenworth that have these badges, are seen in cloth and sewn on to their uniforms. The Metal version came out sometime in the mid 1970s I believe, certaily by 1979, early January 1980, because my Drill Sergeant at Ft Benning  had the BW Parachute Badge, and when in Class As it was in a Metal form badge.

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:32 PM

Hi Patches, great stuff and great info thanks very much for the post. I really like the 1st pattern oval, very cool.

 

A little bit off topic but you wouldn't happen to have any info on Bolivian Ranger wings from the 1960s would you?

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 08:52 PM

Hi Patches, great stuff and great info thanks very much for the post. I really like the 1st pattern oval, very cool.

 

A little bit off topic but you wouldn't happen to have any info on Bolivian Ranger wings from the 1960s would you?

 

Cheers

 

Ryan

Gee Sorry I dont, I'm working off this book below, a 1979 book, it just has Bolivian Jump Wings in the section on Bolivia, no SF or Rangers badges for Bolivia are depicted, it's possible that Bolvian Rangers just wore the standard Parachute Badge.

 

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:05 PM

Hi Patches,

 

no worries at all, thanks very much. Any info on Bolivian Ranger wings is hard to come buy.

 

the attached is what I'm looking for info on.

 

cheers

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 09:14 PM

Hi Patches,

 

no worries at all, thanks very much. Any info on Bolivian Ranger wings is hard to come buy.

 

the attached is what I'm looking for info on.

 

cheers

Wow interesting, I would call this a Ranger Badge rather than wings, even though it's a bird with outstretched wings  :lol:  What does the rest of the shirt look like? perhaps you can open up another topic here in uniforms on it.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:50 AM

cheers patches, I'll PM you details as i feel I've taken this thread in a different direction already



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

I have an original Newsweek magazine with an article and these pics of the SSG.  Would you like me to post it?  Scott



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:12 AM

Hi Scott,

 

sure thing mate.

 

cheers



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 07:29 PM

I will go dig it out and scan in the next couple days.  I now have to travel back home to Oregon for my sons little daughters funeral



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 12:06 AM

Hi Scott,

 

Ok well when you are ready mate and condolences for your loss mate.

 

Regards

 

Ryan



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Posted 09 August 2015 - 07:32 AM

I think the Advisor in the b&w photo is CSM (ret) Mike Martin, who wrote a couple of books about the BDQ.  I do not recall any women being assigned to any Bn in my area/time frame, but one Bn Cdr did have his wife with him all the time, and she wore the uniform, went to the field with them and everything.  She later shot her husband to death for his philandering.



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Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:49 PM

I can't believe I just found this forum. I personally know Serge Demyanenko very well, and if you have any questions for him, I will be more than happy to ask him on everyone's behalf. If you are interested in returning the uniform to the original owner, I am more than happy to buy it off of you, as Serge often shares stories to me about his experience as a veteran, and his family would love it just as much.



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Posted 21 July 2018 - 02:47 AM

I can't believe I just found this forum. I personally know Serge Demyanenko very well, and if you have any questions for him, I will be more than happy to ask him on everyone's behalf. If you are interested in returning the uniform to the original owner, I am more than happy to buy it off of you, as Serge often shares stories to me about his experience as a veteran, and his family would love it just as much.

 

 

thank you for the offer, he certainly had an interesting career, would love to hear his stories. I moved his uniform on a year or so ago and i'm not 100% who has it now. 



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Posted 08 October 2019 - 03:14 PM

Hey there 

 

my last advisor ERDL jacket green dominant from the 3nd Ranger ARVN groups  DSA 1969. This is an Small regular

 

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