cavsaddle Posted April 1, 2008 Share #1 Posted April 1, 2008 This is my setup of a cavalry trooper with equipment used during the punitive expedition into Mexico circa 1916. It is setup as a member of a machine gun unit The belt is the scarce M1910 mounted belt. used for about 1 year for use with th M1909 revolver. It has two sets of pockets for carrying loose rounds of .45 cal. ammunition as well as 8 pockets for 30-06 ammunition. Most of these belts were altered by removing one or both of the .45 revolver pockets and repacing them with the .45 auto magazine pouch when the M1911 Colt automatic pistol was adopted. He is also carrying the M1909 bolo knife and wire cutters which were standard issue to all troopers assigned to machinegun units. Also on the belt is a M1909 holster. On his campaign had is a pair of non regulation dust googles privatly purchased to protect the eyes from the Mexican dust. The neckerchief was also privatly purchased to protect the face from the same dust. Enjoy, George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dan Posted April 1, 2008 Share #6 Posted April 1, 2008 Nice job Cav Saddle. Keep up the good work. I don't remember seeing much on here from the Punitive Expedition. Now you just need a horse. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayg Posted April 2, 2008 Share #7 Posted April 2, 2008 Great period display. He also has the 1907 pattern suspenders, neat. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bank Vault Posted April 2, 2008 Share #8 Posted April 2, 2008 Very sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted April 2, 2008 Share #9 Posted April 2, 2008 Outstanding! Please post additional photographs of footwear and leggings to complete the display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavsaddle Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted April 2, 2008 Outstanding! Please post additional photographs of footwear and leggings to complete the display. Sorry, I don't collect footwear as I'm not heavy into uniforms. The shoes on the display are just generic work shoes George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Romantic Posted April 3, 2008 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2008 Sorry, I don't collect footwear as I'm not heavy into uniforms. The shoes on the display are just generic work shoesGeorge. Very nice display, you don't see many Punitive Expedition displays here! I like the M1910 Mounted Cartridge belt . If you don't want to shell out cash for an original pair of russett shoes What Price Glory makes a repro, good enough for display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavsaddle Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted April 4, 2008 Very nice display, you don't see many Punitive Expedition displays here! I like the M1910 Mounted Cartridge belt . If you don't want to shell out cash for an original pair of russett shoes What Price Glory makes a repro, good enough for display. Thanks for all the kind comments, and thanks for the heads up on the shoes. I will check it out, George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 4, 2008 Share #13 Posted April 4, 2008 Thanks for all the kind comments, and thanks for the heads up on the shoes.I will check it out, George. Change No.3, dated October 3,1915 changed the canvas leggings for enlisted men to "Oak-tanned, full grained, russet, cowhide leather". These new leggings had a small top strap at the front and a spiral strap making one complete turn around the leg and buckling at the bottom. You don't show enough of the legging to be sure but I think that you have the correct ones. Change No. 13, dated July 26, 1915, states that the first aid packet will be worn with the cavalry field rifle belt in front of the left hip under the first rifle cartridge pocket to the left of the belt fastener. Otherwise, nice display. Retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenchRaider1918 Posted April 8, 2008 Share #14 Posted April 8, 2008 Verrrry nice dude. Love the belt and suspenders. Got a question though, were soldiers in this era wearing the m1912 tunic over the button down shirt or was this eliminated during the conlict? All cotton and no wool? Any idea on the insignia like chevrons and hat cords, or was there cavalry only? I haven't seen much info about this period. Again very cool setup and I'm glad someone is doing this era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Romantic Posted April 8, 2008 Share #15 Posted April 8, 2008 Verrrry nice dude. Love the belt and suspenders. Got a question though, were soldiers in this era wearing the m1912 tunic over the button down shirt or was this eliminated during the conlict? All cotton and no wool? Any idea on the insignia like chevrons and hat cords, or was there cavalry only? I haven't seen much info about this period. Again very cool setup and I'm glad someone is doing this era. Carl, check out these books on the subject This is a new book, I haven't read it yet, need to get a copy-http://www.amazon.com/Pancho-Villa-Black-Jack-Pershing/dp/0313350043/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207683883&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Border-Conflict-Vill...3883&sr=8-2 http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Villa-Last-C...d_bxgy_b_text_b And a book on the uniforms and equipment- unfortunately it's the only book on the topic and it's out of print- http://www.amazon.com/Uniforms-equipment-l...4163&sr=1-5 A mixture of wool and cotton service uniforms were worn and a variety of soldiers served on the Mexican Border- Regular Army and National Guard- Infantry, Artillery, Air Service, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavsaddle Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share #16 Posted April 9, 2008 Verrrry nice dude. Love the belt and suspenders. Got a question though, were soldiers in this era wearing the m1912 tunic over the button down shirt or was this eliminated during the conlict? All cotton and no wool? Any idea on the insignia like chevrons and hat cords, or was there cavalry only? I haven't seen much info about this period. Again very cool setup and I'm glad someone is doing this era. The setup as I have it displayed is pretty typical of the uniform as it was worn in Mexico. There were more M1912 swivel holsters in use than the M1909 holster. But because of the 1910 belt I used, I set it up with the revolver holster. The 3 button pullover wool shirt was the uniform of choice for most units. The dress code became much more lax as the campaign went on. There were some newspaper reports that stated that it was sometimes very difficult to tell the difference between the U.S. troops and the Mexican irregulars, as the U.S. troops adopted more and more Mexican dress. Best George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyCanteen Posted October 21, 2013 Share #17 Posted October 21, 2013 Bringing this back up for viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agate hunter Posted November 26, 2013 Share #18 Posted November 26, 2013 Very cool setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheskett Posted November 26, 2013 Share #19 Posted November 26, 2013 What a great display. This is a time period that we don't see much from well done. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atb Posted November 27, 2013 Share #20 Posted November 27, 2013 To me that looks like a Diagnosis Tag Pouch rather than a First Aid Pouch. Are my eyes deceiving me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavdoc83 Posted November 27, 2013 Share #21 Posted November 27, 2013 I hope that George will chime in. Is that a 1919 equipment tag that I see on the back of the belt? Does that mean that this belt was issued through the war? Is the tag marked to a Regular or National Guard unit? When did the Machine Gun Unit hat cord appear? Period work boots would be OK with this display. At one point during the campaign, as boots wore out, they were replaced by civilian boots bought or otherwise procured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124cav Posted November 28, 2013 Share #22 Posted November 28, 2013 11 out of 10 Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavsaddle Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted November 28, 2013 I believe the first aid pouch to be pre 1910, M1905? The attaching wire passes through two metal eyelets in back of the pouch. It is stamped RIA 190?. The snap fasteners have been repositioned to accept the larger first aid packet. Yes there is a 1919 ID tag on the M1910 belt. It is original to the belt. It is regular army. Troop F 10th cavalry. These belts were used well into WW1. I have a yard long of the 2nd cavalry dated 1918. Many troopers are wearing this belt along with eagle button .45 mag pouches. As far as I know the machine gun regiments were organized some time in the 1920's. The hat cords would have been yellow with red trim. I'm including some close ups of the pouch and ID tag. Happy Thanksgiving to all! Best George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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