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#1 ChopperGunner92

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

Is this Green Beret Vietnam Era? The liner was removed, which I know was common during Vietnam. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:53 AM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:54 AM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:55 AM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 06:57 AM

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:15 AM

The oval should not be on the beret, worn on the left breast above the ribbons.I think the DI is the 1st version of the Army Special Operations Command.It was a right & left facing set of DI's.Don't think it was a beret badge and it's post Vietnam war insignia.


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:20 AM

Prior to the institution of the flashes I thought they wore the ovals on the beret.THis is an older oval having the twill back but I dont think the beret is a pre-viet nam era one.Most 60s era ones I recall had the black painted aluminum air vents on one side.Im wondering if this is more of a veterans worn/used beret for wear.



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

As far as I know the ovals have always been used on the jacket/shirt not a beret insignia/flash.Not to get off topic but the first pic is a nice one showing the 'candy stripe' in use along with the oval.

 

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:51 AM

Prior to the institution of the flashes I thought they wore the ovals on the beret.THis is an older oval having the twill back but I dont think the beret is a pre-viet nam era one.Most 60s era ones I recall had the black painted aluminum air vents on one side.Im wondering if this is more of a veterans worn/used beret for wear.

 

If you look in LTC Sutherlands book S.F. of the USA 1952-1982 page 418 you will see a photo of Captain Wm J. Yantis.  On his beret is an oval "referred to as a background"  with jump wings. From the looks of the photo which is not dated it appears to be early 1960's era.  


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

 

If you look in LTC Sutherlands book S.F. of the USA 1952-1982 page 418 you will see a photo of Captain Wm J. Yantis.  On his beret is an oval "referred to as a background"  with jump wings. From the looks of the photo which is not dated it appears to be early 1960's era.  

 

 

Well dip me in butter and call me done.I've looked through that book over 100 times and remember seeing that pic, never really paid any attention to it.I still  don't think it belongs on this particular beret.It's appears to be held on by the jump wings and not sewn in place and the DI is post-Vietnam.Just my opinion.



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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:10 PM

 

 

Well dip me in butter and call me done.I've looked through that book over 100 times and remember seeing that pic, never really paid any attention to it.I still  don't think it belongs on this particular beret.It's appears to be held on by the jump wings and not sewn in place and the DI is post-Vietnam.Just my opinion.

 

 

Agreed, the combination of insignia on the beret posted above looks a bit out of place.  I have had a number of green berets but at the moment do not have any in hand to compare the vent holes. But as noted by Doyler am inclined to agree with his observation as to vintage and possibly for veterans use.



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:04 PM

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Prior to the institution of the flashes I thought they wore the ovals on the beret.THis is an older oval having the twill back but I dont think the beret is a pre-viet nam era one.Most 60s era ones I recall had the black painted aluminum air vents on one side.Im wondering if this is more of a veterans worn/used beret for wear.

 

 

The blue/gold background was first worn by the 77th SFG back in 1954.  Yep, 60s issue berets had black aluminum vent grommets w/rectangular leather backing on the inside.

 

The 1st SOCOM DUI is from the '80s.


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Posted 07 June 2013 - 07:31 PM

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That photo was a "black & white" hand painted with water colors by a photography studio some time after 1967.  It seems they always used WWII OD on the jackets despite the Army having switched to AG 44.  They also painted the oval incorrectly.   He also appears to have his brass on bass-ackwards!


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

Is this Green Beret Vietnam Era? The liner was removed, which I know was common during Vietnam. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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This beret with adornments is NOT Vietnam era to answer your question. The combination of jump wings, background oval and 1st SOCOM Crest are totally wrong. 1st SOCOM was a headquarters unit at Fort Bragg that was in existence up until USASOC was stood up in the early 1990's. 1st SOCOM had its own beret flash and if worn with the crest would be correct for 1983 to 1990. Way back before Vietnam jump wings were worn on green berets with various colored cloth backgrounds. I hope that helps.




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