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#326 GIJive

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:50 AM

Came across this scene of the documentary by the History Channel in HD about the fighting on Tarawa.

At about 17:49 Minutes you can see this Marine possible wearing a non-slit pattern Cover.
The picture is not in HD since I watched in on my mobile phone.

What do you mean?

Heres the link:
https://youtu.be/bDWiEILldHI

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Although it appears that the cover in question could be a non-slit pattern, the resolution isn't sufficient to make a positive conclusion as pump 150 has demonstrated many times in this thread.  Besides, just because the documentary is about Tarawa doesn't mean that specific clip of color footage is from the Tarawa operation.  Documentaries intercut color footage from different Pacific invasions all the time.  It could have been shot during the Iwo Jima or Okinawa invasions.



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Posted 08 February 2019 - 09:56 AM

Ill gues youre right that the scene might be not from Tarawa, also since most Marines wore their beach side camouflage up at Tarawa...

I already did some various editing but couldnt determine any slits.

Maybe someone here on the forum can deliver a more high resolution Picture.

#328 Frogskin7

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:28 PM

Ill gues youre right that the scene might be not from Tarawa, also since most Marines wore their beach side camouflage up at Tarawa...

I already did some various editing but couldnt determine any slits.

Maybe someone here on the forum can deliver a more high resolution Picture.


I think the footage is from Okinawa. The marine seems to have been issued a swivel bail pot w/ OD7 chinstraps

#329 Blueprint

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 12:00 AM

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#330 olivedrab1970

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 06:06 PM

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Nice camo covers! Am I correct in noticing that there are no slits cut on covers in the stacked helmet photo? 

 

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#331 bargunner

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 09:42 AM

I believe that clip from post 325 is postwar due to the life vests. Here is one I'm quite certain is of a slit-less helmet cover on Okinawa.

 

https://catalog.arch...gov/id/74251564



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Posted 30 March 2019 - 01:16 PM

I believe that clip from post 325 is postwar due to the life vests. Here is one I'm quite certain is of a slit-less helmet cover on Okinawa.

 

https://catalog.arch...gov/id/74251564

 

The one on the left has slits but I don't see any slits on the one on the right.



#333 pump 150

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 11:54 AM

I will add resized copies of the linked photo above so that it stays with the thread.  A very nice photo to study, however this photo copy is very bright and washed out to the point that some of the Marine's slits at left fade into the cover as well unless at full size.   I have not seen this original high res as of yet.

 

USMF OK.jpg

 

USMF OK2.jpg

 

USMF OK3.jpg

 

While no very noticeable slits are seen on the one at right, with the position of the cover (far forward) the slits should run diagonal low in front - high in back.  In this very darkened crop the red circle indicating the straight line in the exact position and angle where a slit should be in relation to the center crown fold would seem to indicate possible stitching.  The quality of this photo at the present time would make this inconclusive to rule either way IMHO.     

 

USMF OK4.jpg



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 11:43 AM

IMHO I can't recognize any stitching or even a slit on the cover of the Right one. I guess the Problem with this Picture is: If I strongly believe that there should be a slit anyways, then there is one. Like you said: The Picture is inconclusive. A even more high Resolution Picture would be nice but I don't think that there is one available… 



#335 m1a2u2

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 10:55 AM

Shown here is a mint never issued USMC cover. It demonstrates how difficult it can be to spot the slits in the cover on a newly issued example; not to mention, it's a high resolution photo vs a photos from the 1940s.

rps20190527_145520.jpg

Edited by m1a2u2, 27 May 2019 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted 27 May 2019 - 12:41 PM

The cover in question in Bills last post is very difficult to see slits. Notice how far forward the cover is pulled to the bull of the helmet (the crown of the cover is near the front) slits might even be sandwiched in between the steel shell and liner

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 04:53 PM

Does this mean that my slit cover helmet is now worth more than a non-slit one? 



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Posted 05 January 2020 - 11:58 AM

Does this mean that my slit cover helmet is now worth more than a non-slit one? 

 

I see non slit covers way more than the other. I have 2 slit covers in my collection including a later 1953 cover with slits. I have 3 non slit covers with no EGA, I would like to find a nice condition with slits cover myself.

 

 

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Posted 05 January 2020 - 06:15 PM

 

I see non slit covers way more than the other. I have 2 slit covers in my collection including a later 1953 cover with slits. I have 3 non slit covers with no EGA, I would like to find a nice condition with slits cover myself.

 

 

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Please see my post here.

 

http://www.usmilitar...wslitted-cover/




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